The President Was Shot...

BTW.....does anyone know why Jim closed the Charles Manson thread...?

I really don't know if in your last statement you are being sarcastic or not.

Anyway, I've always thought that the JFK case is one of the few cases where you don't have to be a nutcase in order to believe a conspiracy theory; but evidence still overwhelmingly favors the lone man alternative.

Yes but let's remember Ruby lived on for a while after this so a proper conspiracy shouldn't have left such an obvious living liability. Yet he lived on. 

On the contrary, senseless acts of violence make a lot of sense... for the perpetrators. That's why they get done.

IMO there are enough unanswered questions and other aspects to make one wonder what really happened that day but what always puzzled me was why Ruby ,a small time gangster with Mob connections, cared that much about Kennedy to  shoot Oswald. It simply doesn't make much sense to me.

chopper wrote: Finnforest wrote: Watching the cleaned-up version of the film on YT is certainly intriguing....I hadn't watched it for years.   It doesn't appear the car slowed during the head shot but lots of people swear it did, almost to the point of stopping. There is a video on YouTube which (apparently) shows the brake light on JFKs car going on. Of course this doesn't show how much the car actually slowed.

True, it's the Z film.   In clean versions the brake lights clearly come on.

The only moment when a conspiracy seems possible for me is before the assassination, that is, I have no doubts that L.H. Oswald was the only shooter (there were only three shoots -the "4 shots" in the House Committee findings were found to be  a very defective sound tape-, there was no "magic bullet - Connolly was sitting to the left and below JFK, and the lack of damage in the bullet itself has been replicated -, and three shots were possible in that time and with that level of skill), but maybe somebody put him up to do it?

Padraic wrote: The.Crimson.King wrote: Writing a blog hardly carries any fiduciary responsibility to only write properly researched and scientifically provable truth.   OK, then pick one of the many books devoted to the subject that makes the case for Oswald being the assassin.  I hear Bugliosi's book is fairly comprehensive.

Edited by The.Crimson.King - November 25 2013 at 11:49

Watching the cleaned-up version of the film on YT is certainly intriguing....I hadn't watched it for years.   It doesn't appear the car slowed during the head shot but lots of people swear it did, almost to the point of stopping.

^ You are quite right, almost every point can be countered credibly.   And you shouldn't buy anything.   It is only independent thinking that will create breakthroughs and be able to understand any new evidence.  

You're also correct about the Z film;  It is, or has been, the most important evidence.   However there may be alterations to the film.   I can't count the number of witnesses who say the limo slowed abruptly and even stopped at the moment of the head shot, then sped off.   But the film only shows the car moving steadily down Elm before accelerating after the fatal shot.   And that's just one problem with it.   Another is the cut where we would've seen the limo make the slow hairpin turn at Houston & Elm.   Zapruder swore he never stopped filming from the moment the limo came into his view, but there is a clear and massive amount of missing film where the turn would've been.   Some witnesses say the driver, negotiating the tight turn, actually rolled the car up on to the curb.  

If these things did happen I suppose one could speculate they were removed as to not embarrass the Secret Service with their dismal job protecting the President that day.   But it's still alteration and destruction of the best evidence in a presidential assassination.