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kjprogger 
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 Posted: August 26 2014 at 17:04 |
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I've never thought about this before, but it is a very apt comparison. Beatles = Genesis.
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richardh
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Posted: August 26 2014 at 14:40 |
 thwok wrote:
I think Mr. Parisius is right. Even though they are not even close to being my favorite band, no band has had more influence on the core of progressive rock than Genesis. A quick study of how many neo prog bands from the 80's revival sound like Genesis supports my assertion. |
its true although many seem to dismiss the later 'version' of Genesis as influential.
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Posted: August 26 2014 at 09:29 |
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I think Mr. Parisius is right. Even though they are not even close to being my favorite band, no band has had more influence on the core of progressive rock than Genesis. A quick study of how many neo prog bands from the 80's revival sound like Genesis supports my assertion.
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I am the funkiest man on the planet!
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Rednight
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 16:29 |
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There ain't any, and prog is just that more special because of it.
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PrognosticMind
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 15:50 |
richardh wrote:
PrognosticMind wrote:
If Genesis were "The Beatles" of prog...would that make Yes "The Rolling Stones"?  |
nope King Crimson
Yes = The Beach Boys 
and then Pink Floyd are the Pink Floyd are prog  |
! Still an accurate comparison!
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Padraic
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 15:02 |
SteveG wrote:
The Beatles turned the rock word upside down in the Sixties with all of their inventive musical styles and social fads. As my last post for PA, I would like to ask: Who do you consider to be "The Beatles" of Progressive Rock music in regards the artist's influence and popularity on Progressive Rock music?
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 Floyd and Crimson probably come closest.
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 14:59 |
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richardh
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 14:57 |
PrognosticMind wrote:
If Genesis were "The Beatles" of prog...would that make Yes "The Rolling Stones"? |
nope King Crimson
Yes = The Beach Boys
and then Pink Floyd are the Pink Floyd are prog
Edited by richardh - August 25 2014 at 14:59
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 12:13 |
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I can't imagine a world without the Beatles.as I can't imagine a word without the alphabet.  |
In a world without an alphabet, every album would have a title like Led Zeppelin IV's and every act would be known as "The artists' formerly known as ________."
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 12:09 |
Tristan wrote:
I think Pink Floyd must be considered in this mentioned group |
Sadly this is correct.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 12:02 |
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Miley Cyrus is the Sun Ra of modern stripper pop.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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PrognosticMind
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 11:53 |
If Genesis were "The Beatles" of prog...would that make Yes "The Rolling Stones"?
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 11:47 |
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In terms of popularity, Pink Floyd. One of the few to have a long term stable lineup (David, Roger, Rick and Nick from 1968 to 1979) and sold a boat load of records that are still well received today.
I guess King Crimson could be another choice. I wouldn't be surprised if Fripp's genre jumping was inspired by The Beatles themselves. Then again, that could be said for almost every group that decided to experiment and/or change its sound.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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SteveG
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Posted: August 25 2014 at 11:01 |
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RockHound
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 15:04 |
My knee-jerk reaction falls into the "Beatles, of course" camp. I'm a huge Yes-Genesis-Floyd-KC head, but I consider the Beatles' contributions to be unique and essential.
Tendencies became apparent on Yesterday and Today and Rubber Soul and started bubbling to the surface on Revolver.
Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road, IMHO, are critical compasses that helped other musicians choose their production values, assert compositional freedom, and employ a variety of interesting lyrical ideas. The Beatles were instrumental for creating the commercial environment in which prog could develop and prosper.
The Beatles planted the seeds and fertilized the garden. Pink Floyd, Hendrix, and many others also were essential parts of the 1967 revolution - music does not progress in a vacuum. The Beatles brought the clout and the savvy in a way that nobody else could deliver.
The rest is history - which, thankfully, is still being written.
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 14:14 |
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Hmmm this is a strange question, although I think I understand where the OP is coming from.
This may sound strange, but the only band I'd ever compare to The Beatles in terms of influence on what happened later on in 'cutting edge' music, is The Velvet Underground. Don't get me wrong, they were nothing like The Beatles and were never 'big' in their day, but when you take a look at the multitude of different rock branchings that took their cue from The Velvets; something that stretches far beyond the Punk and Post-Punk scene - even having it's hands deep down the Krautrock scene, - you'll see just how far reaching their approach and 'sound' got. Hell listen to what the underground/experimental rock scene of your country is doing right about now, and then go back and pop on White Light/White Heat.
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FLAC
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 14:10 |
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probably Pink Floyd or late Genesis
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 13:48 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
There is no prog equivalent of the Beatles. |
I'd have to agree. The Beatles were truly revolutionary, all the way back to the haircuts, fashions & huge concert draws. Most of the other early prog bands could lay claim to the huge concert draws and success with AM radio singles, particularly Yes, ELP and Pink Floyd.
If I were to pick one, I'd say Yes for their influence on prog song structure (complex timing changes, vocal harmonies etc.), instrumentation (Rick bass, Mellotrons) and success in the pop music world, all the way to 90125. I rather detest "Owner" but we can't deny the HUGE impact it had on the resurgence of prog pop!
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 13:41 |
I can't imagine a world without the Beatles.as I can't imagine a word without the alphabet.
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 24 2014 at 13:28 |
I am not a Beatles fan, everyone knows that....Had their time and they are done, long time ago. They could not handle the fame and fortune...I agree with moshkito especially his first sentence. It seems what most bands credit them with is song writing influence, they wrote great pop songs....Genesis wrote great pop songs too as did Marillion. Who are the Beatles of hip-hop, R&B, disco, country...polka?
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