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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Can you explain these 'household products' to me?
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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What is ink anyway? Is it possible to make ink out of household products?
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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Can it print without ink?
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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the way the economy is going, the paper may be worth more unprinted.
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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What if I want to make the kind of imaginary money that banks use?
Wait, is there a way I can edit the number that appears on the ATM machine? Can I get more money on my account by withdrawing a negative sum? Edited by Vompatti - October 22 2008 at 20:01 |
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progaeopteryx ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 03 2005 Location: Refrigerator Status: Offline Points: 3613 |
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A printer should do the job.
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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What's the best way for an intelligent person to make money? I want to make some.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I have three apple trees, working on the principle that I would be self-sufficient in apples for some part of the year at least. Unfortunately the result is far from satisfactory with some years bearing more fruit than I can cope with, and others, such as this year, yielding nothing of any worth. Give a hungry man an apple tree and he'll have apples sometimes, but give him money and he can buy apples every day.
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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I don't really have that many apples. I wish I did, but I don't. Still
- no matter how many apples I have - I always wish I had more. Yet I
have so many apples that I feel guilty for wanting more. I wish apples
didn't exist so I wouldn't have to worry about how many of them I have.
Also, I feel sad for all the people who don't have any apples at all.
How much less sorrow there would be if there weren't any apples! This
is true of most things, not just apples. People would be much happier
if nothing would exist.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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No, it makes you someone without a spell checker;
No, it makes you someone with too many apples;
No, you don't make idiots, they are born that way;
No, at least you didn't use oranges;
No, an idiot would use a calculator;
No, idiot would count on their fingers, but only if they could find another 8 idiots to help;
however,
Yes, intelligent people would only need 24 apples.
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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I just realized that I might not be quite as intelligent as I thought I was: I can't subtract! For example,
86 - 49 = ? To subtract would be to take 49 apples out of 86 apples and the answer would be the number of apples left. But instead of subtracting I keep adding to 49 apples until I have 86 apples and the answer is the number of apples I've added. Does this make me an iddiot? |
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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If you touch your thumb with the other fingers, isn't it one hand clapping?
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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is that the sound of one and clipping?
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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It's one infinite silence, otherwise you'd hear clipping every once in a while. |
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Syzygy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7177 |
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Off at a tangent from empty spaces, it's been silent in my flat for a while now. What I'm wondering is this; is it one long silence, or a series of silences of indeterminate length punctuated with very short silences lasting 1 - 2 seconds?
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Only if they are apple-shaped.
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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What shall we use to fill the empty spaces? Apples?
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progaeopteryx ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 03 2005 Location: Refrigerator Status: Offline Points: 3613 |
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I've got three nothings and five empty spaces in my room. I don't see any zeros yet.
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67474 |
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Zero may be taken to represent an empty space, but it may also be taken to represent a quantity of none. Consider the following situation:
There is one apple on the table. You remove the apple. The table is empty. If a = apple, we can write this as: 1a - 1a = 0 But we could also write: 1a - 1a = 0a Do these mean the same? The first one says that when you take away the apple, there's nothing left. The second one says that there are no apples left. (We read it as "No apples" or "Zero apples", not "Nothing" or "Empty space." If we like, we may add that there are no bananas and no oranges either: 1a - 1a = 0a + 0b +0o How is "no apples" the same thing as "nothing" or "no bananas"? How is "nothing" the same as "two nothings" or "an empty space" the same as "two empty spaces"? Edited by Vompatti - September 05 2008 at 17:26 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Zero is a concept not a quantity because if there is one apple on the table and you remove it then there will be zero bananas, oranges, lemons, pineapples, elephants, clouds, planets and ice-cubes on the table as well as zero apples, so in that respect zero is not acting like a number. Similarly if we multiply any real number by zero the result will be zero, and by that, zero cannot be represented by the multiplication or division of two numbers - this is not the behaviour of a quantitative number. Oddly, this idea was not lost on ancient civilisations, who did not consider zero to be a number, but represented it by what it was: an empty space.
By accepting that zero is not a number, but the lack of a number, then the issue of not being able to divide by zero fails to be a problem in the same way that you cannot divide by altruism or any other imaginary concept is not seen as a problem.
So if you reform the questions as 'Why can't we divide by an empty space', then the answer 'Because you can't' is not one that is going to cause any concern.
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