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porter
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 11:07 |
I don't like it because it instantly reminds me of the crap that Mr. Collins was famous for in the 80's, and also because it's a dull one. I't's a stupid song, if it wasn't for a decent guitar work by Hackett in the background, it would go nowhere. And it's also true that it sounds out of place in the flow of the album.
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Empathy
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 10:40 |
That song always made me think they threw Collins a bone for that
record. "Hey, I wrote a song... mind if we track it and see what
happens?"
That said, I kinda like it. Not bad for an early songwriting effort.
And say what you will about Collins, but he wrote some pretty
phenomenally cool stuff before he got to his "Invisible Touch" and "No
Jacket Required" phases.
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 09:16 |
Quite a nice chorus. If they've made a bit more of it and put it on another album it might have almost been good. In the company of such tracks as Moonlight Knight, Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show, it's bound to look second rate.
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Progger
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 09:06 |
'More Fool You' for liking this absolute drivel of a song!
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Phil
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 09:01 |
I think it fits the mood of the album but I do think it's the weakest song on it.
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Titan
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 08:35 |
yanns-netsnjfan: can you tell me what did you insert under your avatar, i would like to have "recently songs" too (i have the account on the audioscrobbler). thank you
anyway more fool me is not bad song but try to compare that to others songs in the gabe era ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 07:53 |
Fearless wrote:
Between songs, Peter usually had to change costumes at the live shows, so Phil and the others would handle vocals on one of these short songs while Peter changed (More Fool Me, For Absent Friends, Harlequin). | An interesting theory, but on the Genesis 'Archives' box set, Gabriel is doing the backing vocals for More Fool Me.... mind you, he could have been doing these from backstage, whilst hopping about getting out of a frock & trying not to trip over the fox's head (there's a mental image for you). Personally, I cannot stand the song, I think it grates against the rest of the album, but this is only my own humble opinion.
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Intruder
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 06:32 |
More Fool Me sounds out of place on the SEBTP album....a lilting folksy instrumental in its place would have strengthened the album's theme. Instead, we're treated to a peek into the future....not a bad song, the harmonic vocals are quite nice, it just doesn't fit in among such heavyweight compositions.
BTW, the poster who mentioned the costume change and the need for an instrumental or second vocalist to cover Peter's absence sounds spot on....can be the only excuse for the existence of such pap (man, I love that word...pap).
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 06:14 |
^ What a ******!
I happen to love the song and think it fits into SEBTP perfectly! It is certainly nothing like anything on Abacab and has the sound of the era it was written in! Great!![](smileys/smiley32.gif) ![](smileys/smiley32.gif)
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Zargus
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 06:07 |
The song is total crap, i have nothing against good pop songs, but that song is not good. your taste must stink if you think its good, have you ever heard the Beatles?
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the musical box
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 01:40 |
I love that song. It seems to be a fairly straight forward love song,
but it pleasantly surprises you and shifts gears at the end. Clever
little song.
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Yanns
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:38 |
Very true Ivan, I agree. Music would be very boring if we all had the same tastes.
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:36 |
That's the beauty of music and musical taste, it's not the same in all of us, I hate that song, IMO represents the first step Genesis took towards the awful 3 men era.
But again, it's only my opinion and I find it totally out of place in Selling England, if it was in Invisible Touch I woukldn't worry because I already don't like that album and don't listen it (I have a new sealed LP that my sis gave me one birthday) so I wouldn't need to skip that song every toime I play SEBTP.
Simple logic ![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:36 |
I Like It
It's hardly filler when one considers its a 3 minute song on a 53 minute album - more like an added bonus
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Yanns
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:30 |
Heh, I don't get it, I guess. I happen to like the song a lot. Doesn't seem out of place at all, to me, that is.
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:23 |
It's boring and out of place in a Gabriel era album, maybe it's right place would be on Invisible Touch for those who like soft adult ballads.
Iván
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nousommedusolei
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:15 |
It's better than "Your Own Special Way". I don't really mind it.
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:11 |
It's not bad.
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 23:02 |
it's ok. if SEBTP didn't have it or "i know what i like," i'd give the album a higher rating.
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Yanns
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 22:53 |
OK. Thank you. But now that I've heard from some people that like/don't mind the song, how about those of you that dislike it?
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