Is there such thing as prog hip-hop?

Mascodagama wrote: http://333music.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-middle-of-infinity   Is a 41-minute epic prog enough??

It's 41 minutes long but it's not prog. It sounds more like an inferior alternative soundtrack to one of the Alien films. There is lots of atmosphere but very little substance or musical development. Just because a thin idea is stretched out to an unendurable length, it doesn't make it an epic.

The Dark Elf wrote: ExittheLemming wrote: Hot Rat '69 wrote: I came to the question while thinking about how people often complain that prog rock is too cerebral and cold--that it has no soul. I wondered if there any good examples to refute that stereotype? Maybe this is a whole other thread... 'too cerebral and cold, that it has no soul' sounds like 40 or so years of passive racism to me. Good examples to refute that stereotype? try the 53,141 other members who joined the site because this music somehow moved them in a positive way. From another perspective, how exactly does hip-hop have soul?

This question is about music, not race. I love Genesis and National Health as much as I love Bootsy Collins and Herbie. I'm looking for common ground between my two favorite "genres" of music. But people do ask "how can you sit through a 30 minute suite with harpsichord interludes and goofy sci-fi lyrics?" I say "have you ever heard of Funkadelic?"

Hot Rat '69 wrote: I came to the question while thinking about how people often complain that prog rock is too cerebral and cold--that it has no soul. I wondered if there any good examples to refute that stereotype? Maybe this is a whole other thread...

'too cerebral and cold, that it has no soul' sounds like 40 or so years of passive racism to me.
Good examples to refute that stereotype? try the 53,141 other members who joined the site because this music somehow moved them in a positive way.

Dekkhead wrote: Deltron 3030  This album might count. It's at least a futuristic concept album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo

Deltron 3030 
This album might count. It's at least a futuristic concept album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_jbluF0qo

I came to the question while thinking about how people often complain that prog rock is too cerebral and cold--that it has no soul. I wondered if there any good examples to refute that stereotype?

Maybe this is a whole other thread...

Hercules wrote: Dean wrote: Nope. Double nope.

Dean wrote: Nope.

https://youtu.be/2Ka3-F2yKTM"Scarecrows" by Telemachus (aka Chemo) featuring Roc Marciano. The whole backing track is "Arrow" by Van der Graaf Generator (from the brilliant Godbluff album, their best). The vocals over the top are new and performed by the hip hop artist (unless Hammill has taken to using the N-word a lot lately). This was apparently a popular track, I hope VdGG got some money for it.

Interestingly enough, a friend and I had been thinking about this in relation to Kendrick Lamar's new album To Pimp a Butterfly. I myself have come to find the album only okay and a pale sophmore release to Good Kid Maad City, but nevertheless it is an interesting album that I would reccomend anyone on this site to at least check out, if only to see what "prog-hop" might sound like. I mean hell, he raps over a 60's post-bop jam on the second track, that at least warrants a chance. But even for non-prog listening, go listen to GKMC. If nothing else, there is a fantastic 12-minute track on there that absolutely crushes the 12-minute track on TPAB.