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Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:34

I think Rockpommel's Land is probably the worst prog narrative ever

Edited by Triceratopsoil - August 11 2010 at 22:34

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Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:33

there's music and music.

sometimes you have to focus on the narrative, sometimes on the singing, sometimes on the music, sometimes on the mood/ambient.
as far as music as an art goes, its impossible to tell whether one piece is better than other.

you may happen to find a lot of people disliking something, but it means almost nothing.

in my opinion, i find coheed and cambria a bit far from prog, and i dont like their songs.
on the other hand, i love the narratives of rush and early yes.

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Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:07

(This is no indication of the music being bad btw, I loved Coheed And Cambria's second and third narrative.)

Many concept albums have a story with characters and settings and events that happen. The degree to which the story is made explicit varies wildly from literal narrative lyrics with sound effects and voices to something like Coheed And Cambria's Amory Wars cycle which has a very detailed story yet basically gives you not the slightest indication of it in the music itself. I suppose this has been done on purpose, Sanchez writing lyrics that suggest the emotional states of character in the story rather than making any attempt to depict the action but it's still a huge failure as narrative and makes the story absolutely irrelevant in my eyes.

I used to really care about the narratives of concept albums but as I've gotten older I've started to care less and less and just focus on the music.

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Triceratopsoil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 17995	Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:34
	I think Rockpommel's Land is probably the worst prog narrative ever Edited by Triceratopsoil - August 11 2010 at 22:34

TheOppenheimer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 29 2010 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 228	Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:33
	there's music and music. sometimes you have to focus on the narrative, sometimes on the singing, sometimes on the music, sometimes on the mood/ambient. as far as music as an art goes, its impossible to tell whether one piece is better than other. you may happen to find a lot of people disliking something, but it means almost nothing. in my opinion, i find coheed and cambria a bit far from prog, and i dont like their songs. on the other hand, i love the narratives of rush and early yes.
	//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// A veces es cuestión de esperar, y tomarte en silencio.

Textbook Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281	Posted: August 11 2010 at 22:07
	(This is no indication of the music being bad btw, I loved Coheed And Cambria's second and third narrative.) Many concept albums have a story with characters and settings and events that happen. The degree to which the story is made explicit varies wildly from literal narrative lyrics with sound effects and voices to something like Coheed And Cambria's Amory Wars cycle which has a very detailed story yet basically gives you not the slightest indication of it in the music itself. I suppose this has been done on purpose, Sanchez writing lyrics that suggest the emotional states of character in the story rather than making any attempt to depict the action but it's still a huge failure as narrative and makes the story absolutely irrelevant in my eyes. I used to really care about the narratives of concept albums but as I've gotten older I've started to care less and less and just focus on the music.