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geekfreak 
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 Posted: September 18 2014 at 09:41 |
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yes or no that is the ?
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 09:28 |
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It was difficult to predict and of course the vote is still to close to call. Equal numbers of Scots DON'T want independence. Lets not forget that.
I take enormous pleasure blaming Cameron for everything from the weather to dog turds on playing fields - obviously - but this isn't something that can be hung on him imo. Indeed, the opposition would also be guilty of under estimating the strength of feeling in the yes camp, if this were the case.
That said, I did think that all three manin parties did look desperate running up to Scotland in a show of uncharacteristic solidarity at the 11th hour.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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chopper
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 09:21 |
 Gerinski wrote:
chopper wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
Should Cameron resign if the Yes wins? |
I don't see why, he's hardly responsible for Scotland wanting to split away (if indeed they do). |
I think many British could blame him for having underestimated that a Yes was a real possibility. He was overconfident that come the moment of truth Scots would not dear to split. It seems clear by now that that was a very big error of judgement which can cost a high price to Britain. |
Really? Do you have advance knowledge of the result then?
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Gerinski
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 09:11 |
chopper wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
Should Cameron resign if the Yes wins? |
I don't see why, he's hardly responsible for Scotland wanting to split away (if indeed they do). |
I think many British could blame him for having underestimated that a Yes was a real possibility. He was overconfident that come the moment of truth Scots would not dear to split. It seems clear by now that that was a very big error of judgement which can cost a high price to Britain.
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 09:02 |
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Hmmm...if Scotland secedes I wonder if it will foreshadow a return of the Troubles in Northern Ireland. It would certainly give the Republicans the impetus to seek reunification with Eire. |
It certainly raises some interesting questions, like who the Loyalists in Ulster would be "loyal" to - Scotland (where most originate from) or the remaining UK?
Edited by Cactus Choir - September 18 2014 at 09:06
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"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
"He's up the pub"
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 08:46 |
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Hmmm...if Scotland secedes I wonder if it will foreshadow a return of the Troubles in Northern Ireland. It would certainly give the Republicans the impetus to seek reunification with Eire.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Dean
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 07:50 |
chopper wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
Should Cameron resign if the Yes wins? |
I don't see why, he's hardly responsible for Scotland wanting to split away (if indeed they do). |
No but he signed the Edinburgh Agrement that makes it all legal and possible. That single signature is essentially callmeDave voting on behalf of the entire English, Welsh and Northern Irish population.
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chopper
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 07:41 |
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At long last they have the right to vote to be shafted by their own government.
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 06:55 |
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^^^ Indeed, it's one thing Cameron can't be blamed for. Scotland has arguably been shafted by successive UK governments for generation. At long last they have the right to vote to be shafted by their own government.
That said, I hope we all stay together. If we don't, my fingers are crossed for the Scots, and I wish them well, but I have a hunch they'll need a little more than just good wishes from me...
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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chopper
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 06:07 |
Gerinski wrote:
Should Cameron resign if the Yes wins? |
I don't see why, he's hardly responsible for Scotland wanting to split away (if indeed they do).
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chopper
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 06:06 |
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Actually Penderyn is one of my favourite whisky's and that's Welsh!
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Gerinski
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 05:08 |
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Should Cameron resign if the Yes wins?
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Dean
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 02:51 |
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Anaon
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Posted: September 18 2014 at 02:41 |
Yes or no, I'll drink a dram of whisky!  but the result will influence which wisky I'll drink 
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Atavachron
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Posted: September 17 2014 at 22:33 |
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Aye ees gleet, jus t'ave a voot.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: September 17 2014 at 22:05 |
If it happens then Nessie can wear plaid again!!!
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: September 17 2014 at 19:27 |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: September 17 2014 at 19:19 |
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Regardless of the turnout of this, I really wish Canadian news agencies would stop trying to compare Scotland to Quebec
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Dean
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Posted: September 17 2014 at 18:04 |
Regardless of the outcome, I think the population of England should have a referendum to see whether we want to keep the tight-fisted whinny little ginger sods or not.
I also think we should seriously consider compulsory repatriation.
And a permanent ban on bagpipes, tartan and haggis.
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Argonaught
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Posted: September 17 2014 at 15:36 |
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Catalunya next?
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