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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 09:38
This is an album that will castoff any dark vibes:
Githead - Waiting for a Sign cover
Githead (the ex Wire and Minimal Compact collective) returns with a beautiful new avant/art pop Wire-like album starts off with deft rhythmic songs that eventually drifts into two dreamy atmospheric soundscapes before climaxing with a kosmische-like hook driven finale!
 
If your a Wire fan from way back, this album will knock you out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 09:25
Speaking of dark-trip music,
is it not rather curious that in any forum discussion of psych you cannot let it go without bringing-up, BRAINTICKET "COTTONWOODHILL" lp?

Even more curious that - dammit! - this is not coming out of US (or even UK), but Switzerland (or was it Austria? - I forget. Welll...Van Droogenbrogen-wotsit was Belgian. THAT I do know.)

Yes, it is a '72 release, so, PLEASE I do not want to be arguing minutea like this can't be cornerstone psych. That is granted, okay?

"Only listen once a day to this record. Your brain might be destroyed! Hallelujah Records takes no responsibility." So goes the parental warning stuck on the back of the orig lp.

It starts with two, rather lame tracks (compared to the onslaught that is coming on the remainder (one and a half sides) of the lp.
Then it starts: the interminable 25 minutes of repeated Hammond mind-bore, the total female voice freakout.


We all know this legendary record (well, let us say collectors of Mars Volta probably do not).
I want however to take this oportunity to do a mini-review on their cd, just out, "Future, Past and Present" (I hope I got that title correct.)

Its been 15 years since their last release "Alchemic Universe". So this was a MOST- AVIDLY awaited release.
Gone are all the Tangerine Dream moves of "Alchemic" and "Adventure". But - we all want to know - is gone the sheer Madness of "Cottonwoodhill".
Well...yes.
But, compositionally, it is a definite return.

Just like history is but a chronicle of reiteration, all music is derived from previous musics. Evolution involves a lot of repetition. Nothing is inovative.Its just bands in the grip of their delusion, beleiving they are not derivative.

"Past,Present,Future" is deffo derivative of the fiorst release. "Dancing On the Volcano arts One and two" comprise over 30 minutes of the 75 minute cd. And, yes, its all basically repeated line - only this time round its not Hammond.
Where it differs from the psychedelica of the first lp, is that its now more prog-fusiony. Very well done, mind. Like the recent Gong lp, the band leader evidently took great care in bringing in top musicians.

On the minus side, the cd has much female narration.
This gets to be too much as we move towards the last two tracks of the cd. One is a long spoken (over music, of course) ramble on a story from Egyptian mythology. The last track is - curiously enough - blues-based and has the woman repeating the same line OVER AND OVER: "What have we done...What have we done?"

Overall, I recommend you all this cd.
But dont accept as dark a trip as The Legend.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:46
The second greatest Psychedelic Rock album of the sixties is The Doors. No, it's Are You Experienced? No it's the Doors. No, it's Are You Experienced? No, it's...
Well, you get the drift. If the never intended to be acid "come down" album Days of Future Passed came to be that way almost by default (what other mellow paranoid relieving album was there?), the same could not be said for the conscious psychedelic door openers such as The Jimi Hendrix Experience: Are You Experienced? and the Doors self titled debut album, that were almost always the first to be requested after the small to moderate sized crowd had finished consuming paper tabs or sugar cubes.
 
 
 
Generally, Are You Experienced? was usually given the nod as it's lead off track (on American LP editions at least) was the bombastic Purple Haze. Thought to have referenced a "brand" of acid created by well known American acid chemist Augustus Owsley Stanley III, or better known as Owsley for short, it seemed to be a natural jumping off point. Regardless that Owsley never created an acid batch that was so named, (however he did develop the extremely potent and popular strain he called "orange sunshine"). So Hendrix and company usually got the nod to be the opening act. Are You Experienced? was a good acid rock album that drifted into studio trickery psychedelia towards the album's close with songs like Third Stone From The Sun and the title track which both featured heavy use of stereo panning, vocal flanging and echoed phasing.
 
 
 
 
 
For my money, The Doors debut album was always the superior of the two and featured it's own knocking  on consciousness' door with it's manic lead off track Break On Through. Other album songs were more blues rock in nature except for the bizarre sing along Alabama Song, before coming to the group's stupendous mega hit Light My Fire (in all it's unedited glory). The album's showstopper and final track The End was everything a psychedelic song needed to be in 1967. Dark, brooding, atmospheric, mysterious, Blakean, obviously Freudian, and unfortunately for some, scary and paranoid inducing.
 
 
Even though Are You Experienced? opened many a Freak In, The Doors' debut was the album with greater psychedelic and psychological substance. And the great vocals of the forever mysterious and impressive Jim Morrison clinch the feeling for me that The Doors' debut was the second great Psychedelic Rock album of the sixties. The trip continues.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:45
Originally posted by Kayleur Kayleur wrote:

Yeah, you are correct.
Days Of Future Passed is one long acid freak-out.
Once again, you missed the point of the post. DOFP was the "come down" album at the end of an acid party, not an acid freak-out itself. That honor would go to other albums like the following.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:43
We are still talking about it because it has and always will have immensity,loftiness, gentle sadness, period twee-ness.Some of the best lovesongs ever penned.

No one writes like this anymore.
No one dares.

It is a stupid, violent society.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:29
Peak Hour is psychedelic.
Its psychedelic in a sorta beat Go Too sorta...erm sorta way.




(Damn, I'm playing devil's advocate again.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:25
Originally posted by Kayleur Kayleur wrote:

You are incorrect, little elf.
It IS full-tilt, nipples erect & thrust forward PSYCHEDELIC!


Goddammit! What are you trying to do here?
You PRESUME to trespass on Steve's province????
LOL
Just to presume a bit further, what part of DoFP is psychedelic, exactly? My take on it is that it defies categorization, particularly for 1967, which is why we are still talking about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 08:23
Squabbles aside, one important thing I hope we all agree on: it is a masterwork of MELODIC composition. Two/three tracks here that I'm CERTAIN a fair lot of us would be desirous of having composed ourselves.


It is always strange to me that you have group masterpieces like this , but when the artists go solo they just go ordinary at once. Has anyone anything good to say of Hayward's solo lps - or, say, Art Garfunkel's?
They are just women's-pap records, far, far from the earlier heights.
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You are incorrect, little elf.
It IS full-tilt, nipples erect & thrust forward PSYCHEDELIC!


Goddammit! What are you trying to do here?
You PRESUME to trespass on Steve's province????
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2015 at 07:38
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

So to me, Days Of Future Past will always remain the greatest Psychedelic Rock album ever made. Something that will always strike me as ironic, because unlike following Moody Blues albums that are chuck full of sitar and period studio effects, DOFP was never meant to be one.  
 
DoFP never struck me as a psychedelic album. It still doesn't. I love the album, and I think it's one of the greatest releases of the 60s, but it isn't very psychedelic at all. I will say that "Nights in White Satin" has helped me get laid more than all other songs combined, whether stoned or not.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 20:34
Yeah, you are correct.
Days Of Future Passed is one long acid freak-out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 18:53
Originally posted by Kayleur Kayleur wrote:

Well Dr Wu, Days Of Future Passed also has been remarked as having a very trippy coverart - yet its not psych.

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Steve: Romantic-era orchestration is the polar opposite of psych.
Bring in the orchestra and you have instant division. Is "Conquistador" psych? Is the epic Van Dyke Parks' "Song Cycle" ('68) psychedelic?
Is Neon Philharmonic?
No, because classical EATS UP psych. (Whereas it cuddles up to prog.)

Sure, you have things like (the first rock opera) November 1967's Electric Prunes "Mass In F Minor" * but here (as is the case with Deep Purple Albert Hall lp) the orchestra is in battle/ at odds with the rock. From this early period you could easily reference "5 Bridges" The Nice as well.

It has been remarked more than once how with Moodies DOFP -although the meld between two pop songs that consitute The Dusk section is perfect/nigh seamless - the beat rock and balladry just doesn't fit proper against the classical. There is a divide.

*Offenbach "St Chrone de Neant" comes to mind as well, but as memory serves that one did not have a battling orchestra.

I don't really have time to teach Psych Rock 101 but I'll give you a brief rundown on it's development in 1967. As no template yet existed for what construed, what we some 50 years later refer to as Psychedelic Rock, it was normal practice to include albums that were deemed psychedelic by adoption or by proxy. In other words, aside from what the Beatles would define as psychedelic rock, albums that naturally fell into acid Freak Outs/Ins such as Days Of Future Passed were adopted into the 1967 Psychedelic Rock canon. After December 31st 0f 1967, Psychedelic Rock was basically defined as having standard model, tonal and harmonic qualities with non standard song structures, along with an array of non musical identifiers such as studio tape effects and signal processing.
 
So, I'll reiterate. Days of Future Passed is, has and will always be a Psychedelic Rock album. And as I tried so hard to convey my post, in it's final sentence, it was not by design.
 
As for the silly rant on how classical trumps psych, etc., that is of your own opinion and has no place in this discussion, so I will not comment on it.
 
This is why I have no use for what you deem as 'true' Psych forums because they have failed to inform you of these basics.  If you pick up a basic text book on Psych Rock I think you'll fare 40-50% much better.
 
Live long and prosper. Nan Nu, Nan Nu.
 Now, I think it's time for another spin of this Psych rock classic. Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 18:30
Originally posted by Kayleur Kayleur wrote:



Why are the Moodies generally ignored, even disliked amonst us progladytes?


If I had to guess, it's probably due the same reasons that cause them too be ignored by psychladytes. Clown
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 17:50
^ Hmmm, just found evidence that he did think ELP a waste. I guess they were just that bonkers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 17:46
Okay,I am probably wrong about Peel and Genesis, but I thought he always hated ELP...or have my wires crossed somewhere??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 17:36
^ Since when did Peel savage Genesis and ELP? He was always one to hold up and play all sorts of music, and he started with psych and prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 17:20
Having mentioned the power of media representation, of the opinion-makers; I would like to go off on a little bitch, or tangent at this juncture.

It always got my goat how on most prog forums The Moody Blues are given distinct short shrift/ indifference when compared to other prog cornerstone bands. Prog magazines as well disregard the importance of this group. (Expose et all)

The trouble is that people do not want to question the inadvertence of self-appointed media savants. And herein I hurl my wrath at one Lester Bangs just as he , the highpriest pundit ,hurled (along with, I suppose John Peel) savage bile on Genesis, and ELP.
Bangs also savaged The Moodies, yet THIS the hoi polloi on the various prog forums all tend to agree with.

Why are the Moodies generally ignored, even disliked amonst us progladytes?

Is it because they were commercially successful? (Well, so were Genesis.)
Is it because they continued churning poo after their seventh release? (So did Genesis).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 17:08
I just discovered Tame Impala the other day and I'm hooked.  The spacey vibe with the Lennon-esque vocals just blends perfectly.  I'll have to pick up both of their albums before my trip to Europe next week. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 16:40
Well Dr Wu, Days Of Future Passed also has been remarked as having a very trippy coverart - yet its not psych.

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Steve: Romantic-era orchestration is the polar opposite of psych.
Bring in the orchestra and you have instant division. Is "Conquistador" psych? Is the epic Van Dyke Parks' "Song Cycle" ('68) psychedelic?
Is Neon Philharmonic?
No, because classical EATS UP psych. (Whereas it cuddles up to prog.)

Sure, you have things like (the first rock opera) November 1967's Electric Prunes "Mass In F Minor" * but here (as is the case with Deep Purple Albert Hall lp) the orchestra is in battle/ at odds with the rock. From this early period you could easily reference "5 Bridges" The Nice as well.

It has been remarked more than once how with Moodies DOFP -although the meld between two pop songs that consitute The Dusk section is perfect/nigh seamless - the beat rock and balladry just doesn't fit proper against the classical. There is a divide.

*Offenbach "St Chrone de Neant" comes to mind as well, but as memory serves that one did not have a battling orchestra.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2015 at 16:28
An interesting link showing what was released in '67
 
 
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