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dr wu23
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And here I thought he was a hedonist. btw...I agree with your take on TAAB. “Monty Python lampooned the British way of life,” says Anderson. “Yet did it in such a way that made us all laugh while celebrating it. To me, that’s what we as a band did on Thick As A Brick. We were spoofing the idea of the concept album, but in a fun way that didn’t totally mock it.”
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I disagree. That's not the point of the top 250. It is the highest rated ALBUMS by members of PA. I think everyone takes this stuff too seriously and has insecurity issues when they don't like a highly rated album or their precious obscurity isn't on it. It's just a reflection of how people feel! Nothing wrong with adding other lists though. A top 250 artists page would be cool indeed.
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^ Don't be ridiculous! Mozart was a Maoist!
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I like the album ... it just bothers me, these discussions almost 50 years later ... we might as well go around calling Mozart a communist now!
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Same. The one thing I would FORCE is that on that list you have to have 250 ARTISTS ... not albums ... thus we know that GENESIS would be there, but we would not be having these powwow's about these albums ... heck, are we such idiots as to have to select a Peter Hammill album and then a VdGG album? That person needs a visit from Nurse Ratchet in their dreams! Now, specifying that GENESIS is better than YES or vice versa is actually a much better discussion, because you have to include their listing of albums, and all of a sudden, guess what you find? Some progressive folks only listened to 3 or 4 GENESIS albums, and some YES folks only listened to 3 of their albums, and they are voting full force! Oh well ... I guess a commercial society has to have these numbers so the folks know what to buy!
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SteveG
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As a prog album TAAB is overrated. As a spoof on a prog album it's a f**king masterpiece. Well done Ian.
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It's called having different tastes, I'm with you on Moving Pictures, for me every album preceding it is better but that's the way it goes, others think differently.
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I found that Jethro Tull, aside from Aqualung, never really did anything for me for a long time. I thought they were overrated as well. But by spending more time with a couple albums, I grew to appreciate their idiosyncratic style to the point where I often crave it over my more traditional prog favs. To me they have a unique and personal style that fits well with good fantasy novels and adventures of the imagination. Thick As A Brick does this especially well by fostering many great melodies and hooks under the umbrella of one epic piece, never losing its sense of direction and flow.
However, I do prefer no small number of other prog records to it. It wouldn't make my personal top 10.
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dr prog
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I rate it better than all those albums. The compositions are just first class.
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Good choice but I've already told the undertaker that "Heart Of The Sunrise" will be my exit music.
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OP: Yes!
Great start, but then it does go on so. I'm told it had lyrics--and pulls the wool over the world in a cheeky kind of way--but those aren't the kind of things that draw me into music. It's the music for me, baby, the music! (And a nice cor anglais, accordion, Prophet 5, or ChapmanStick doesn't hurt, either!)
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That's the beauty of this mother of all concept album: it's a spoof about a complete hoax and it's absolutely hilarious that it wrinkles the serious proggers That's at least worth 5 clappies |
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You guys/gals...what if TAAB is perfectly rated as is...?
THEN what do we do?!
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Absofookinlutely it's amazing that people care at all at such kind of top list at all... Don't they have better things to do in life (like breathe fresh air, for ex) except stats? As if PA was speaking as some kind of god with an autoritative opinion and dogma to present and doctrine to follow for fidels.
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and another for you Jean. Not many know of the two verision of that song. two really different songs in reality.. while the long version lets Neil and Stephen fly into the sun with some killer guitar work.. but IMO and it is not a commonly held one... it ruins the song as intended. ie in its short version. It was quite a sad song and was driven home by the banjo and Stephen's heart rendering softly uttered singing... in the extended version.. gone... Look no further than the final verse.. that is why it would be my funeral song.. very sad.. and beautifully done but anything but that in the extended version and to me that ruins the song. It isn't like there is no wealth of example of just how good Stephen was on guitar and how he held his own.. even topped Neil... but this wasn't the song to do it with.
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Agreed. At the time it came out, I thought it was cool ... another band that considered making "classical music" within a rock context, and it was outstanding. Kinda weird to think that some folks can only imagine this being a bunch of little songs just glued together ... and considering it over rated on that basis, and not a valid piece of music ... heck, you think Mozart is any better? You think that Beethoven's 5th or 7th or 9th are any better and not just a bunch of songs put together? It's a real bummer, seeing the lack of understanding and appreciation for so much music ... and to my ear, it's like saying that Mozart is just prairie patties, and Beethoven is plain French merde (not mustard!), and of course, all these "pop musak'ers" would consider the top ten of classical music so overrated ... because CTTE is their number one favorite, and they have NEVER EVER heard any of the other stuff ... and worse ... they never will because that would be admitting that ashidholes like us were right about music, and they were just kids smoking their first joint! (AND ... thinking today's joints were better than what we had ... HAHAHAHA!!!!!) I am of the opinion that the only thing missing here is people getting a better feel for the history and the time ... I can see it now ... a president saying that "foreign son" is offensive and that the writer needs to be fired from his job! ... and some idiots on this board will allow it to happen, instead of voting that guy out! AND, of course, one read on the lyrics of TAAB kinda ... yeah ... like Ian said ... showing the front of the CD ... this is "progressive" and then flipping the CD and saying "this isn't progressive" ... which was kinda perfect for me ... there is also a different version of it, that was cleaned up later, but the original was far more with it, and like Ian than all the rest of his lyrics!
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funeral songs ehh.. long had that one picked.
Buffalo Springfield - Bluebird is TaaB overrated? Perhaps.. but I'll flip it to the perhaps more accurate point. It isn't overrated as much as their earlier stuff, far superior to that, is HIGHLY underrated.
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My funerary service should start with Gnidrolog's Long Live Man Dead and end with Oaksenham's Afterdeath Fantasy.
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my funeral will have "The Goldberg Variations" played by Glenn Gould (his first recording of them)
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