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Squonk19 
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 Topic: Hot Rats or In the Court of the Crimson King?
Posted: March 04 2018 at 03:18 |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:19 |
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I love this Zappa record, but I had to give it to KC on this one.
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Barbu
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Posted: January 10 2017 at 12:16 |
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Man With Hat
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 10:02 |
Tough call as I love both.
FZ this time around.
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 08:46 |
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Again, KC since they are my favorite prog band........though I really like Hot Rats, played it a lot at college, but it simply doesn't have the power and grandeur that the first Crimson album does....but in the end they are completely different animals and it is a strange comparison of albums for a poll.
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 08:13 |
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love both but
Crimso
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frankbostick
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 08:07 |
KC - ITCOTCK  ++ FZ - HR + Two masterpieces.
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:20 |
 Kespuzzuo wrote:
The King Crimson album is one of the most important albums in rock history, Prog Rock would be completely different without that album. Hot Rats is important too, not as much as ITCotCK, but, in my opinion, it's more pleasant and delicious.
Voting for King Crimson
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If I were strictly considering historical/cultural importance, I'd rate In the Court a lot higher, but historical/cultural importance are completely irrelevant to me when I'm rating how much I like something.
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Terrapin Station
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:18 |
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Hot Rats easily for me.
Both artists are top 10ish for me, but Zappa in my #2 while Crimson isn't higher than #7 (my order never changes from 1 through #6, after that it tends to shift around). Also, I'd probably rank Hot Rats around the lower middle of a Zappa album ranking, but In the Court of the Crimson King would easily be in last place of a Crimson album ranking for me. I do like In the Court, but I like every other Crimson album more. The only Crimson-related stuff I'd rank below In the Court are some of the ProjeKct albums.
Edited by Terrapin Station - January 09 2017 at 06:22
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Kespuzzuo
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:17 |
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The King Crimson album is one of the most important albums in rock history, Prog Rock would be completely different without that album. Hot Rats is important too, not as much as ITCotCK, but, in my opinion, it's more pleasant and delicious.
Voting for King Crimson
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Lewian
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 06:10 |
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That's a tough one. In terms of listening pleasure they're about at equal level to me although I'm less moody about Hot Rats, ITCOTKC is top on some days and I can't bear it on others. The historical significance and innovation of Crimson's one makes it a tight winner.
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 22:27 |
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King Crimson
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akaBona
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 15:29 |
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Hot Rats
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Progmind
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 15:18 |
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Both amazings albums, tough to pick one of them, finally voted kc
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 15:02 |
Definitely Hot Rats! For KC, I'd prefer Lizard or Larks probably
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 14:58 |
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I like KC but Hot Rats wins here
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 12:02 |
zravkapt wrote:
Discuss: they were both released on the same day |
Also, both have a guy named Ian (Underwood for Rats, McDonald for Court) who play an insane amount of keyboards, winds and reeds.
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 11:58 |
Court, while being only my 5th favourite of the classic King Crimson albums, is still a masterpiece. Try as I might to find faults in it, I always find something new to appreciate whenever I put it on.
Never quite understood the love for Hot Rats, though; guess I'll have to give it another listen.
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Hercules
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 11:44 |
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Both are 2* albums, but I prefer King Crimson - for once.
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Posted: January 08 2017 at 10:10 |
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In The Court today. It might change tomorrow. Both fantastic albums to my taste.
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Hot Rats or In the Court of the Crimson King?
