Can or PFM?

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: miamiscot wrote: Easy one: PFM by a mile. Can is boring to these ears... Sorry for Can fans, but I have to agree.

That's fine - that doesn't really affect my appreciation for Can. If anything i'm sorry for you too.

PFM.

Can by a country mile. 

Absolutely Can! Never get into Italoprog that much, seem to have lot of love here.

PFM, by a toupee.

Can just edge ít over PFM

Perfect vision, defective ears.

Sorry for the negativity -- it's just my impression and we're all different, of course, but...

I picked up Stati di immaginazione in 2006, as I was very into PFM back then, and it didn't appeal to me. Have tried subsequently and it still didn't appeal to me. To each his or her own tastes of course, but there's nothing there that I would consider brilliant that I can recall. There is some pleasant acoustic guitar work (not up to Segovia), but that's about all that I liked from it. People were really lauding the album at the time and it was certainly one of my biggest musical disappointments (I've only very rarely been disappointed with albums). I picked up another Italian album at about the same time, Yugen's Labirinto d'acqua, also from 2006, and found it so much more satisfying. EDIT: hadn't played that Yugen album in about nine years, and I can't stand it now -- tastes change. I still don't like Stati, though. ;)

Edited by Logan - March 29 2017 at 15:12

Catcher10 wrote: Logan wrote: It's about the groove for me. That's it!!  They live in the "groove" man, gotta dig deep to understand the Can......its not music, its Can!

I was once asked why I liked to fish, and said it's all about that bass. Seriously, unlike Ivan, I don't think you need to "understand" a band like Can, you just need to feel it to dig it (psychotropic drugs can help, though I would not promote their use and avoid such stuff myself).   It's not intellectual music, which is not to say tha it is completly disengaged from the intellect of course. Like quite a bit of Krautrock and psychedelic music, it has hypnotic qualities when you can feel the groove. I'd like to go a little farther though than just feeling the groove to say, don't just feel it and don't just dream it, be it. Its the kind of music where the experience can be enhanced when at a swinging party of freaks grooving to it -- especially if there are strobe lights and the room is filled with a heady mix of noxious vapours.

But Ivan, if you can't dig it, you can't feel it, you can't dream it, and you can't be it, that's fine. I think people are often overanalyzing music when they say that they can't understand it.

As for Zappa and Can, I generally only really like Zappa when he's instrumental. I love this:

A dude who enjoy Tago Mago and dislike Zappa...bizarre, man.