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    Posted: February 27 2018 at 13:23
Originally posted by DeadSouls DeadSouls wrote:

Ricochet, I like Live/Hhaï too.
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Ricochet, I like Live/Hhaï too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2018 at 15:47
Magma for me
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Close but Ricochet
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Stratosfear was a milestone. The title track evolves like a runaway locomotive. It's an unrelenting earworm.

If you like that one, you also have to check out Cyclone and Force Majeure (one of the best albums to cross over from Berlin School into full-on prog).
Both of those albums are superb. I stopped getting TD records with Optical Race. From their 80’s output - Tangram, Pergamon and Underwater Sunlight are all wonderful albums, but I am party-pooping the poll at hand.

I have to have anything/everything with Johannes Schmoelling on it. That guy's amazing. He cooked up melody lines I've heard from no other keyboardist, not even the Emersons and Wakemans out there. Everything from Pergamon through Le Parc, be it a studio album, live recording or film soundtrack, is in my collection. 

Since you like Optical Race, you may want to revisit the 1989 album Lily On The Beach. Some really cool stuff on there. When J-Fro joined full time is when things started going south (for me, anyway). 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2018 at 01:13
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Stratosfear was a milestone. The title track evolves like a runaway locomotive. It's an unrelenting earworm.

If you like that one, you also have to check out Cyclone and Force Majeure (one of the best albums to cross over from Berlin School into full-on prog).
Both of those albums are superb. I stopped getting TD records with Optical Race. From their 80’s output - Tangram, Pergamon and Underwater Sunlight are all wonderful albums, but I am party-pooping the poll at hand.

I have to have anything/everything with Johannes Schmoelling on it. That guy's amazing. He cooked up melody lines I've heard from no other keyboardist, not even the Emersons and Wakemans out there. Everything from Pergamon through Le Parc, be it a studio album, live recording or film soundtrack, is in my collection. 

Since you like Optical Race, you may want to revisit the 1989 album Lily On The Beach. Some really cool stuff on there. When J-Fro joined full time is when things started going south (for me, anyway). 
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ It's spectacular; so much power with such frenzy and intensity. Definitely many bold adjectives worthy.

^^ I got hooked with the first Tangerine Dream album (Electronic Meditation). It's a very different experience from Ricochet (a more experimental rock kind of sound) and is not appreciated by most as much as by me.
Love those first 4 TD albums. Alpha Centauri is my pick. Then Stratosfear (from the later albums).

Stratosfear was a milestone. The title track evolves like a runaway locomotive. It's an unrelenting earworm.

If you like that one, you also have to check out Cyclone and Force Majeure (one of the best albums to cross over from Berlin School into full-on prog).
Both of those albums are superb. I stopped getting TD records with Optical Race. From their 80’s output - Tangram, Pergamon and Underwater Sunlight are all wonderful albums, but I am party-pooping the poll at hand.
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That said... Ricochet! 
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ It's spectacular; so much power with such frenzy and intensity. Definitely many bold adjectives worthy.

^^ I got hooked with the first Tangerine Dream album (Electronic Meditation). It's a very different experience from Ricochet (a more experimental rock kind of sound) and is not appreciated by most as much as by me.
Love those first 4 TD albums. Alpha Centauri is my pick. Then Stratosfear (from the later albums).

Stratosfear was a milestone. The title track evolves like a runaway locomotive. It's an unrelenting earworm.

If you like that one, you also have to check out Cyclone and Force Majeure (one of the best albums to cross over from Berlin School into full-on prog).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 13:23
It's very, very close, but my vote goes for Ricochet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 11:38
Both, but Ricochet gets my vote. I bought that album after reading a review of it at age 16 and it got me into Progressive Electronic for the rest of my teens, so it has a special place for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 08:41
Ricochet was my favourite album for some time in my teenage years, but I've clearly played it too much so that now I prefer the Magma one by some distance. (Both will appear in my poll series later.)


Edited by Lewian - February 24 2018 at 08:41
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 08:34
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Magma by quite a length........I still love Ricochet, though it’s one of my least listened-to TD from the 70’s.


Unlike Magma's Live which blew me away on first listen, Ricochet was something of a slow burner to me. At one time I was only really into TD's 1970 to 1973 period (Electronic Meditation, Alpha Centauri, Zeit, and Atem), but then I got into the later stuff (Ricochet played a part in me exploring the band more). My first TD album was Phaedra many years ago, but it didn't fully click until much later. Now I love all of the 70s TD albums (all the studio and lives that I know) and I enjoy various 80s TD albums very much.

As for the Magma Live, I was really obsessed with it at one time, but then I used to be really obsessed with Magma generally. Incidentally, the Magma album that has got the most plays over the years with me is the debut -- a double-album that was one heck of a way to jump in, and makes Genesis' debut look like child's play in comparison, to reference my other recent poll with some inanely humorous intent.

Once again, I won't link to the whole album, and the whole thing should be heard, but for those that don't know it, here is the exciting concluding track, Mëkanïk Zaïn:


I think most of us have gone through Magma obsession.. coinciding with having first discovered them hahah.  One of those bands you have be a limp dicked Neo weanie to NOT love.

Only point I differ is the debut was the one right from teh gate that amazed me.. and still does today.  I'd be hard pressed to vote for anything to top ELP for best debut album.. but Magma's sure would be one I'd consider. 

Anyhow.. the poll... love both. No vote.
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I'm a huge fan of both albums, I can't split them so won't vote.
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Tangerine Dream - Ricochet
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 03:56
I've gone from Live/Hhaï to Ricochet. I still love Magma but never listen to this one anymore. I'm also in a minority (it seems) who prefer Didier Lockwood's approach to playing in Zao - by far. I owned Ricochet for years but never given it much attention but as I've kept growing fonder of TD's Virgin-years its gotten plenty of spins in the last couple of years. Now I enjoy it just as much as Rubycon.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 03:37
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ It's spectacular; so much power with such frenzy and intensity. Definitely many bold adjectives worthy.

^^ I got hooked with the first Tangerine Dream album (Electronic Meditation). It's a very different experience from Ricochet (a more experimental rock kind of sound) and is not appreciated by most as much as by me.
Love those first 4 TD albums. Alpha Centauri is my pick. Then Stratosfear (from the later albums).


I can't argue with those picks. Good choices, those are two of my very favourites these days and in all sincerity, I was thinking about mentioning those very same albums in the post you quoted.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 03:23
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ It's spectacular; so much power with such frenzy and intensity. Definitely many bold adjectives worthy.

^^ I got hooked with the first Tangerine Dream album (Electronic Meditation). It's a very different experience from Ricochet (a more experimental rock kind of sound) and is not appreciated by most as much as by me.
Love those first 4 TD albums. Alpha Centauri is my pick. Then Stratosfear (from the later albums).

Edited by Tom Ozric - February 24 2018 at 03:24
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 03:02
First I'd say Magma, but I'm just discovering and appreciate Tangerine Dream. With Phaedra, it's probably my favorite album for the moment. But things can change. I'm a complete newbie here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Squonk19 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 02:58
Ricochet was my introduction to TD, so has a soft spot in my heart. I remember watching the TV broadcast from Coventry Cathedral and thinking that playing that music in a church was a really progressive step!
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