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    Posted: March 30 2021 at 13:43
Surgeons should stop wearing masks too.  I know I'd be tickled to go in for a tonsillectomy and see my surgery team barefaced.  

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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Regarding trying to convince someone of reason and truth....in this case that masks do help.....there's an old Irish saying:
'Never try to teach a pig to sing, you'll just waste your time and annoy the pig.'

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Regarding trying to convince someone of reason and truth....in this case that masks do help.....there's an old Irish saying:
'Never try to teach a pig to sing, you'll just waste your time and annoy the pig.'

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ Truth is, a lot of Texans are still wearing their masks and a lot of businesses in Texas are still enforcing mask mandates for their business. Just because the state government no longer has a mandate does not mean that most businesses are following suit.

Surely some of you heard about the woman who was arrested in a B of A in League City TX for not wearing a mask and causing a commotion about it. This happened well after Abbot lifted the state mandate.

P.S. If you are wondering about the legality of the arrest. The bank asked her to leave their property and she refused so she was arrested for trespassing.
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That's good to hear. Gives me hope we'll get out of this sooner than later. Thumbs Up
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^ Truth is, a lot of Texans are still wearing their masks and a lot of businesses in Texas are still enforcing mask mandates for their business. Just because the state government no longer has a mandate does not mean that most businesses are following suit.

Surely some of you heard about the woman who was arrested in a B of A in League City TX for not wearing a mask and causing a commotion about it. This happened well after Abbot lifted the state mandate.

P.S. If you are wondering about the legality of the arrest. The bank asked her to leave their property and she refused so she was arrested for trespassing.

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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Re Cboi Sandlin "Okay, so tell me, if masks work at all, then when the mask mandate here in Texas was lifted, you would have expected the COVID cases to skyrocket, but that didn't happen, the cases are actually going down."

The trouble with this statement is that you are assuming that all Texans quit wearing masks, which of course is not true. Most Texans who care about keeping those around them safe are still wearing masks. I used to live in Texas and still have lots of family and friends there who tell me what is going on.
Sure there are some rednecks, sociopaths and other dimwits not wearing masks, but also a lot of educated types who are.

There is also a lag time between when people take their guard down and case numbers go up. In another week or two we'll know how Texans are doing. But there are more unknown variables this time than during the previous waves. We have a combination of fast-spreading variants taking place while vaccinations are on the rise. Whether this will even things out or go one way or the other is unpredictable now. Epidemiologists are concerned about a fourth wave, and rightly so.

Here in Pennsylvania, we also seem to have a rural/urban divide about mask-wearing, but it does cross that divide occasionally.
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Originally posted by Cboi Sandlin Cboi Sandlin wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ I didn't say you were a sociopath, show me where I said that.


Lol you are acting like I'm the stupid one when you can't remember like 5 minutes ago. You literally said "Sure there are some rednecks, sociopaths and other dimwits not wearing masks, but also a lot of educated types who are." 
I did not personally mention you as being part of any of those groups. If you choose to include yourself in one of those groups, that is your choice, not mine.
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Flu viruses are not coronaviruses. Some cold viruses are coronaviruses, but not all, and the most common colds are not coronaviruses.

The idea that flu cases are low because they have been rediagnosed as coronavirus is completely disingenuous, and easily refuted by looking at countries where there have been low cases of Covid-19. It’s an easy trap to fall into, and I can understand why people do, but it’s false.

The reason flu cases are down is because people are wearing masks and social distancing, etc. It is not because flu is being mis-diagnosed as COVID-19.

If you don’t believe me, then look at NZ which has had the one of the best responses to COVID-19, one of the lowest death rates from it - AND hardly any flu cases compared to a normal year.

In the UK, I have seen people make the same assumption (misdiagnosis), because the UK has a huge amount of COVID-19 cases, but very few flu cases. It is easy to see, therefore, why some people assume this is because flu cases are being misdiagnosed as COVID-19.

BUT

If that were the case, then you would not expect to see the same extreme decrease in flu cases in NZ, where they aren’t likely to be misdiagnosed as COVID-19, simply because there’s not much of it in NZ.

Basically, you can take any country in the world, and regardless of whether they have a lot or only very few COVID-19 cases, there is a notable reduction in flu cases.

Also, before anyone wants to call me out, my own medical credentials (or lack thereof) are irrelevant, and I’m not the one in the hospitals that has to determine whether a patient is suffering from flu or COVID-19. And I’m quite happy to believe that the doctors know what they are diagnosing.

Basically, in countries with both large amounts of COVID-19, and in countries with low amounts of COVID-19, there has been the same reduction in flu cases. This simply wouldn’t happen if flu were being misdiagnosed as COVID-19 on a grand scale.

You’re free to call BS if you like. I’m not trying to change your mind - just stating reported facts. What you choose to do with them is up to you. 🤷🏻‍♂️


This is not going to get through their heads.  I will give my example - in vain - here.  In India, we don't have the typical influenza that hits Europe and US in the winter. We do get viral fever in coastal cities like Mumbai but it's not really contagious, not in the same way as covid. 

But we do have covid and even with reasonable mask discipline for a third world country with lots of poverty, we have lots of cases, lots of deaths too. 

And yes, long covid. As in your case, my CT scan is clean and only reports something that apparently suggests sequelae of a previous infection (from the time I got covid).  But that sequelae is nothing to sniff at.  I was down with terrible weakness all of last week.  I took no medication whatsoever and yet slept several hours in the day time (apart from a regular 8 hours sleep for the night). I had difficulty climbing stairs and started breathing heavily when I did so last week (which is what set off the alarm bells).  And I am 35.   

None of the above is going to convince those who have already made up their minds but, no, it's NOT flu rediagnosed as covid.  I can positively affirm that we never had something like this here in India.  And I do hope it will eventually mutate and die or become as harmless as a regular viral, because I don't think we could afford or manage annual vaccination drives. 
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ I didn't say you were a sociopath, show me where I said that.

Lol you are acting like I'm the stupid one when you can't remember like 5 minutes ago. You literally said "Sure there are some rednecks, sociopaths and other dimwits not wearing masks, but also a lot of educated types who are." 
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Flu viruses are not coronaviruses. Some cold viruses are coronaviruses, but not all, and the most common colds are not coronaviruses.

The idea that flu cases are low because they have been rediagnosed as coronavirus is completely disingenuous, and easily refuted by looking at countries where there have been low cases of Covid-19. It’s an easy trap to fall into, and I can understand why people do, but it’s false.

The reason flu cases are down is because people are wearing masks and social distancing, etc. It is not because flu is being mis-diagnosed as COVID-19.

If you don’t believe me, then look at NZ which has had the one of the best responses to COVID-19, one of the lowest death rates from it - AND hardly any flu cases compared to a normal year.

In the UK, I have seen people make the same assumption (misdiagnosis), because the UK has a huge amount of COVID-19 cases, but very few flu cases. It is easy to see, therefore, why some people assume this is because flu cases are being misdiagnosed as COVID-19.

BUT

If that were the case, then you would not expect to see the same extreme decrease in flu cases in NZ, where they aren’t likely to be misdiagnosed as COVID-19, simply because there’s not much of it in NZ.

Basically, you can take any country in the world, and regardless of whether they have a lot or only very few COVID-19 cases, there is a notable reduction in flu cases.

Also, before anyone wants to call me out, my own medical credentials (or lack thereof) are irrelevant, and I’m not the one in the hospitals that has to determine whether a patient is suffering from flu or COVID-19. And I’m quite happy to believe that the doctors know what they are diagnosing.

Basically, in countries with both large amounts of COVID-19, and in countries with low amounts of COVID-19, there has been the same reduction in flu cases. This simply wouldn’t happen if flu were being misdiagnosed as COVID-19 on a grand scale.

You’re free to call BS if you like. I’m not trying to change your mind - just stating reported facts. What you choose to do with them is up to you. 🤷🏻‍♂️



Yep, you're just stating reported facts, not real ones.

I don't usually respond in these threads because it opens up a huge can of worms.

Let me just say that everything that is being reported as a fact isn't really a fact at all.

There is a consensus among naturopaths and scientists not indoctrinated into the cult of the AMA that is basically controlled by the interests of the Council of Foreign Relations (understanding the history of neo-fascism is key to understanding why all of this nonsense is being touted as facts).

And that consensus IS that viruses are not what we are taught.

The word VIRUS is derived from Latin which means POISON.

Antoine Bechamp and similarly minded scientists proved all the way back in the 1800s that viruses are not infectious agents that cause disease but rather symptoms of cellular breakdown due to the releases of exosomes caused by toxicity. Therefore viruses are an OUTFECTION not an INFECTION.

That means viruses are an expression of cellular poisoning.

Bechamp (father of the terrain theory) was a bitter rival of Louis Pasteur who is known as the father of germ theory.

Pasteur was basically nurtured by the global bankers to craft a medical paradigm upon which a medical empire could be built around.

Think this is all crazy?

Check out this new video with Dr. Stefan Lanka, one of Germany's most prestigious scientists.

He successfully proved that the measles virus doesn't exist and took it all the way to Germany's top court and won.

The fact is that NO virus has been proven to exist.

What causes what we perceive as viruses results from a complex coctail of mass poisoning.

There is more than enough evidence that polio outbreaks for example were triggered by the use of DDT.

This video rambles a bit and if you can get past the heavy German accent, it is quite revealing.

Keep in mind that this is the man who PROVED the measles virus has never been proven to exist and upheld by the highest court of the land.

Believe it or not, much of what is taught to us as FACT is nothing more than a theory that someone has constructed an industry around. It's thankfully starting to crack.

BTW this is just one mere example.

Did you know the CDC is a corporation that exists only to sell vaccines?




Okay, now i was agreeing with you up until now. Virus' are real and COVID is real, it's just exagerated. I'm pretty sure that's just a conspiracy theory.
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^ I didn't say you were a sociopath, show me where I said that.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Re Cboi Sandlin "Okay, so tell me, if masks work at all, then when the mask mandate here in Texas was lifted, you would have expected the COVID cases to skyrocket, but that didn't happen, the cases are actually going down."

The trouble with this statement is that you are assuming that all Texans quit wearing masks, which of course is not true. Most Texans who care about keeping those around them safe are still wearing masks. I used to live in Texas and still have lots of family and friends there who tell me what is going on.
Sure there are some rednecks, sociopaths and other dimwits not wearing masks, but also a lot of educated types who are.
Now you can call the non mask wearers whatever mean names you want to, the fact is that there is a lot of them here in Texas, and the virus isn't spreading like crazy here. Why? Because masks dont work. FACTS! But if you want to ignore science and listen to what the politicians (Fauci has basically turned into a politician now) and CNN tell you, that is fine with me. Just dont call me a sociopath because i dont buy it. 
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Re Cboi Sandlin "Okay, so tell me, if masks work at all, then when the mask mandate here in Texas was lifted, you would have expected the COVID cases to skyrocket, but that didn't happen, the cases are actually going down."

The trouble with this statement is that you are assuming that all Texans quit wearing masks, which of course is not true. Most Texans who care about keeping those around them safe are still wearing masks. I used to live in Texas and still have lots of family and friends there who tell me what is going on.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Yep, you're just stating reported facts, not real ones.

I don't usually respond in these threads because it opens up a huge can of worms.

Let me just say that everything that is being reported as a fact isn't really a fact at all.

There is a consensus among naturopaths and scientists not indoctrinated into the cult of the AMA that is basically controlled by the interests of the Council of Foreign Relations (understanding the history of neo-fascism is key to understanding why all of this nonsense is being touted as facts).

And that consensus IS that viruses are not what we are taught.

The word VIRUS is derived from Latin which means POISON.

Antoine Bechamp and similarly minded scientists proved all the way back in the 1800s that viruses are not infectious agents that cause disease but rather symptoms of cellular breakdown due to the releases of exosomes caused by toxicity. Therefore viruses are an OUTFECTION not an INFECTION.

That means viruses are an expression of cellular poisoning.

Bechamp (father of the terrain theory) was a bitter rival of Louis Pasteur who is known as the father of germ theory.

Pasteur was basically nurtured by the global bankers to craft a medical paradigm upon which a medical empire could be built around.

Think this is all crazy?

Check out this new video with Dr. Stefan Lanka, one of Germany's most prestigious scientists.

He successfully proved that the measles virus doesn't exist and took it all the way to Germany's top court and won.

The fact is that NO virus has been proven to exist.

What causes what we perceive as viruses results from a complex coctail of mass poisoning.

There is more than enough evidence that polio outbreaks for example were triggered by the use of DDT.

This video rambles a bit and if you can get past the heavy German accent, it is quite revealing.

Keep in mind that this is the man who PROVED the measles virus has never been proven to exist and upheld by the highest court of the land.

Believe it or not, much of what is taught to us as FACT is nothing more than a theory that someone has constructed an industry around. It's thankfully starting to crack.

BTW this is just one mere example.

Did you know the CDC is a corporation that exists only to sell vaccines?



What a rambling bunch of goofy, conspiracy-laden nonsense. I'll just wade through the muck and select 2 items:

First, DDT did not cause polio. Polio and polio outbreaks occurred long before the widespread use of DDT after WWII. In fact, DDT was used as a deterrent for polio and polio outbreaks; unfortunately, the chemical caused a whole host of other damaging issues:

" The pesticide was deployed against polio for the better part of a decade despite negative scientific findings concerning its effectiveness."


Second, in regard to the word "virus" as meaning "poison".

Virus, late Middle English (denoting the venom of a snake): from Latin, literally ‘slimy liquid, poison’. The earlier medical sense, superseded by the current use as a result of improved scientific understanding, was ‘a substance produced in the body as the result of disease, especially one capable of infecting others’.

The meaning "agent that causes infectious disease" emerged by 1790s gradually out of the earlier use in reference to venereal disease (by 1728); the modern scientific use dates to the 1880s. 

So, using the etymological change in a word to somehow bolster an asinine conspiracy theory is rendered utterly useless if said change originated 2 centuries ago. LOL


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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Flu viruses are not coronaviruses. Some cold viruses are coronaviruses, but not all, and the most common colds are not coronaviruses.

The idea that flu cases are low because they have been rediagnosed as coronavirus is completely disingenuous, and easily refuted by looking at countries where there have been low cases of Covid-19. It’s an easy trap to fall into, and I can understand why people do, but it’s false.

The reason flu cases are down is because people are wearing masks and social distancing, etc. It is not because flu is being mis-diagnosed as COVID-19.

If you don’t believe me, then look at NZ which has had the one of the best responses to COVID-19, one of the lowest death rates from it - AND hardly any flu cases compared to a normal year.

In the UK, I have seen people make the same assumption (misdiagnosis), because the UK has a huge amount of COVID-19 cases, but very few flu cases. It is easy to see, therefore, why some people assume this is because flu cases are being misdiagnosed as COVID-19.

BUT

If that were the case, then you would not expect to see the same extreme decrease in flu cases in NZ, where they aren’t likely to be misdiagnosed as COVID-19, simply because there’s not much of it in NZ.

Basically, you can take any country in the world, and regardless of whether they have a lot or only very few COVID-19 cases, there is a notable reduction in flu cases.

Also, before anyone wants to call me out, my own medical credentials (or lack thereof) are irrelevant, and I’m not the one in the hospitals that has to determine whether a patient is suffering from flu or COVID-19. And I’m quite happy to believe that the doctors know what they are diagnosing.

Basically, in countries with both large amounts of COVID-19, and in countries with low amounts of COVID-19, there has been the same reduction in flu cases. This simply wouldn’t happen if flu were being misdiagnosed as COVID-19 on a grand scale.

You’re free to call BS if you like. I’m not trying to change your mind - just stating reported facts. What you choose to do with them is up to you. 🤷🏻‍♂️



Yep, you're just stating reported facts, not real ones.

I don't usually respond in these threads because it opens up a huge can of worms.

Let me just say that everything that is being reported as a fact isn't really a fact at all.

There is a consensus among naturopaths and scientists not indoctrinated into the cult of the AMA that is basically controlled by the interests of the Council of Foreign Relations (understanding the history of neo-fascism is key to understanding why all of this nonsense is being touted as facts).

And that consensus IS that viruses are not what we are taught.

The word VIRUS is derived from Latin which means POISON.

Antoine Bechamp and similarly minded scientists proved all the way back in the 1800s that viruses are not infectious agents that cause disease but rather symptoms of cellular breakdown due to the releases of exosomes caused by toxicity. Therefore viruses are an OUTFECTION not an INFECTION.

That means viruses are an expression of cellular poisoning.

Bechamp (father of the terrain theory) was a bitter rival of Louis Pasteur who is known as the father of germ theory.

Pasteur was basically nurtured by the global bankers to craft a medical paradigm upon which a medical empire could be built around.

Think this is all crazy?

Check out this new video with Dr. Stefan Lanka, one of Germany's most prestigious scientists.

He successfully proved that the measles virus doesn't exist and took it all the way to Germany's top court and won.

The fact is that NO virus has been proven to exist.

What causes what we perceive as viruses results from a complex coctail of mass poisoning.

There is more than enough evidence that polio outbreaks for example were triggered by the use of DDT.

This video rambles a bit and if you can get past the heavy German accent, it is quite revealing.

Keep in mind that this is the man who PROVED the measles virus has never been proven to exist and upheld by the highest court of the land.

Believe it or not, much of what is taught to us as FACT is nothing more than a theory that someone has constructed an industry around. It's thankfully starting to crack.

BTW this is just one mere example.

Did you know the CDC is a corporation that exists only to sell vaccines?

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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Cboi Sandlin Cboi Sandlin wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Cboi Sandlin Cboi Sandlin wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Cboi Sandlin Cboi Sandlin wrote:

Masks don’t work and it is pointless to wear them. Glad we don’t have to here in Texas though. I will say that for when I was at school (as they still force us to wear them XD) I had s mask that said “I’m being forced to wear this by the government”, but I unfortunately lost that mask 🤣😢

Care to enlighten us on how they don't work? Or do you just not know how to wear one correctly? The science says otherwise.

Okay, here is some evidence:
https://wethepeopleconvention.org/articles/here-is-the-science-proving-masks-do-not-work
https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy
https://www.aier.org/article/the-cdcs-mask-mandate-study-debunked/
https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2020/09/it-is-scientifically-impossible-for-masks-to-work/

Judging by the sites you referenced, I assume you have to wear a tinfoil helmet to capture the correct frequency. 

You see, when I research the medical efficacy of an item, I go to actual medical and university sites...because...scientific research:


Or The University of California, San Francisco....

Or world-renowned Johns Hopkins....

Or the equally renowned MIT....

Or how about the National Academy of Sciences....

Or the American Medical Association....

Or the British Medical Journal....

Of course, I could add the FDA, CDC, WHO and nearly every other medical organization in the world. But my list would drag on for several pages, and you aren't required to wear a tinfoil hat.
Ok so those show that masks can block sneezes, but that doesnt matter because most people just block their sneezes with their arm. The fact is, though masks can block most of the particles from talking and stuff, enough of those particles can get through to spread the disease. The COVID particles are too small to be filtered out by a mask

It's a lot more complicated than the particles just being too small. The physics of droplets in air is complicated. A large percentage of them won't make it through the holes in a mask. This article can explain it much better than I:

This is actually really old science. It was known back in 1918 that they worked.

And yes, masks aren't perfect. It's why we need to socially distance ourselves, stay out of crowds, and limit our time in buildings that don't have good ventilation. It's one of the reasons why restaurants are super-spreaders. People can't eat through their masks, so they don't wear them. It's why I do takeout only, so that I can enjoy good food and still support the businesses so they can survive this pandemic.

Okay, so tell me, if masks work at all, then when the mask mandate here in Texas was lifted, you would have expected the COVID cases to skyrocket, but that didn't happen, the cases are actually going down.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Cboi Sandlin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2021 at 07:41
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Now we all know how Bane feels.

Masks don't help stop viruses ?   Then why is the flu & cold rate so low this season ?




Because they have all been rediagnosed as covid.

Flus, colds and covid are all coranaviruses.

The PCR test which is being used to test doesn't work.

Dr Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test has stated publicly numerous times that the PCR test was not designed to diagnose infectious diseases.

How they are diagnosing COVID is by simply extracting RNA fragments and then using a computer program to fill in the remaining info.

There are hundreds of scientists who have called this all out as a scam in how it's being sold to the public.

After taking in hundreds of hours of lectures, debates, discussions and whistleblower testimonies, i have to say that the lack of consensus amongst scientists should cause one to question the official narrative at the very least.

For many who haven't learned the intricacies of biology and the money-driven madness of consensus science and what gets funded, you will not understand why many of us are distrustful of the establishment which has a history of fraud.



Exactly, and it's the same thing with the mask issue, or any issue related to COVID. The CDC and WHO (both GOVERNMENT run organizations) may say that masks work, but there are many real doctors and scientists with PHD's and all the fancy degrees who say the opposite. The only thing is that the media and the government likes to put the spotlight on those who agree with their agenda, and they also like to shame those people saying "You dont care about saving lives". which makes me think that there is some sort of corruption going on in this whole thing. 
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Flu viruses are not coronaviruses. Some cold viruses are coronaviruses, but not all, and the most common colds are not coronaviruses.

The idea that flu cases are low because they have been rediagnosed as coronavirus is completely disingenuous, and easily refuted by looking at countries where there have been low cases of Covid-19. It’s an easy trap to fall into, and I can understand why people do, but it’s false.

The reason flu cases are down is because people are wearing masks and social distancing, etc. It is not because flu is being mis-diagnosed as COVID-19.

If you don’t believe me, then look at NZ which has had the one of the best responses to COVID-19, one of the lowest death rates from it - AND hardly any flu cases compared to a normal year.

In the UK, I have seen people make the same assumption (misdiagnosis), because the UK has a huge amount of COVID-19 cases, but very few flu cases. It is easy to see, therefore, why some people assume this is because flu cases are being misdiagnosed as COVID-19.

BUT

If that were the case, then you would not expect to see the same extreme decrease in flu cases in NZ, where they aren’t likely to be misdiagnosed as COVID-19, simply because there’s not much of it in NZ.

Basically, you can take any country in the world, and regardless of whether they have a lot or only very few COVID-19 cases, there is a notable reduction in flu cases.

Also, before anyone wants to call me out, my own medical credentials (or lack thereof) are irrelevant, and I’m not the one in the hospitals that has to determine whether a patient is suffering from flu or COVID-19. And I’m quite happy to believe that the doctors know what they are diagnosing.

Basically, in countries with both large amounts of COVID-19, and in countries with low amounts of COVID-19, there has been the same reduction in flu cases. This simply wouldn’t happen if flu were being misdiagnosed as COVID-19 on a grand scale.

You’re free to call BS if you like. I’m not trying to change your mind - just stating reported facts. What you choose to do with them is up to you. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Now we all know how Bane feels.

Masks don't help stop viruses ?   Then why is the flu & cold rate so low this season ?




Because they have all been rediagnosed as covid.

Flus, colds and covid are all coranaviruses.

The PCR test which is being used to test doesn't work.

Dr Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test has stated publicly numerous times that the PCR test was not designed to diagnose infectious diseases.

How they are diagnosing COVID is by simply extracting RNA fragments and then using a computer program to fill in the remaining info.

There are hundreds of scientists who have called this all out as a scam in how it's being sold to the public.

After taking in hundreds of hours of lectures, debates, discussions and whistleblower testimonies, i have to say that the lack of consensus amongst scientists should cause one to question the official narrative at the very least.

For many who haven't learned the intricacies of biology and the money-driven madness of consensus science and what gets funded, you will not understand why many of us are distrustful of the establishment which has a history of fraud.




Edited by siLLy puPPy - March 29 2021 at 20:27

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