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    Posted: July 14 2025 at 06:22
Saga: Worlds Apart
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Fun fact: Martin Ditcham, former drummer with Henry Cow, went on to play with Sade (hear him on Henry Cow's Glastonbury and Elsewhere) Oh, I was comparing the albums, not the bands...
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'Abacab' all the way!
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


We're voting by album, not band.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


Saga is a prog band that has made a few non-prog albums.

Abacab comes at the tail end of Genesis being a prog band.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


Worlds Apart is much more proggy than Abacab. And it's a very good album compared to Abacab that I rate a good album. And Worlds Apart has nothing on it that approaches the wretched mess that is "Who Dunnit?"

I'm a Prog fan, but there are a number of albums that are not considered Prog that I prefer over many Prog albums.

So I would not say it's a sad day. Maybe if Worlds Apart was leading Selling England by the Pound or A Trick of the Tail in a poll, that possibly would be a sad day.

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^Calling Genesis a prog band around 1981 is akin to calling Sade jazz rock
Be that as it may I voted for Abacab. I happen to love Genesis’ 80s pop stretch.


You got in first -- sometimes it takes me minutes just to correct my typos. Funnily enough, I have seen various Prog fans complain because Genesis had jumped the Prog ship by then (or mostly). As for Sade, she was never into jazz-rock that I can recall, but she did Smooth Jazz and Lovers Rock.



Alas, that Lovers Rock quip could have been almost funny if told totally differently by a smooth operator.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


I'm not very familiar with these albums, however...

Both have been rock bands and I believe that both have made progressive rock. I prefer to categorise on the album (or even track) level than band level commonly since many bands are only making progressive rock for part of their careers and I wonder, is Genesis still a Prog band at that point? Is Abacab more Prog than Worlds Apart? And how how much should our appreciation (our favourite) depend on how Prog something is? I love lots of non-Prog especially as a genre designation) music more than a great deal of Prog music, and actually, what I recognise as progressive rock may not fit another perception. Because I am member of a Prog forum does not mean to me that I must loyal to Prog (and a lot of Prog by numbers stuff is hardly progressive in a sense).
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^Calling Genesis a prog band around 1981 is akin to calling Sade jazz rock
Be that as it may I voted for Abacab. I happen to love Genesis’ 80s pop stretch.
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Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.
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Very good Saga album vs. OK Genesis album.
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Worlds Apart by 2 stars. Great album.
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I have only heard the Genesis album in full and not for ages, so I won't vote (never got into the pop-rock AOR stuff that much) , but Saga's "On the Loose" off World's Apart I would hear being played so much back in the 80s.

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Saga by far here.
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Worlds Apart...from start to finish. Abacab has some moments. I listened to Worlds Apart throughout the 80s.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2025 at 18:35
Worlds Apart. The whole album cooks, whereas Abacab has some very good songs (I love the title), but is not quite as engaging as Duke.
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As I get older, I seem to like Abacab more and more, thus my vote.
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I went with Saga. Very good album. I do like Abacab too.
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