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marktheshark
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Topic: Alan White vs. Bill Bruford Posted: June 26 2005 at 18:29 |
Funny thing. During the years with Yes and KC, I used to think while Bill was a good precision drummer and percussionist, I thought he was somwhat lame. Where Alan I thought was more aggressive and dynamic. I had seen both of them in those years. Then everything changed when the first UK album came out. Then Bill's first 2 solos came along and I'm just going "What got into this guy?!". According to a Downbeat mag interview with him, after the KC hiatus he was just swept up by all these fusion drummers tearing up the skins (Billy Cobham, Lenny White, Narada Michael Walden etc.) So he went back to square one, tightened-up his basic rudiments, pumped iron and came back a leaner, meaner Bill Bruford. It sure showed when I saw him on the One Of A Kind tour. I was just blown away and did a complete 180 on him. About the only time I was disappointed in what he was doing was around the ABW&H/Union period when he had this obession with electronic drums. Electronic drums are fine for occasional effect, but I wouldn't want a whole set of them. They just take too much of the human element out of drumming. But Bill's one of those guys who sees a neat toy and just goes all out for a while like he did with Remo Roto Toms. Glad to see he got off of it.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 18:28 |
Bill Bruford. One of the best drummers I know. Intelligent, always in for something new, soulful, humble... What a great guy.
Still White is a very good drummer.
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spectral
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 17:53 |
Easily Billy boy, without a shadow of a doubt!
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Posted: June 26 2005 at 17:46 |
Bill Bruford!! , ... in my humble opinion, of course.
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Spacemac
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 12:49 |
Bill Bruford
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 25 2005 at 12:40 |
Woot! Resurrecting another thread!!
Anyway, Bruford by miles. White was really good on GOD and relayer on a whole. But, overall Bruford takes the cake as the greatest drummer ever, IMHO.
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 11:30 |
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 11:14 |
Nope thatīs Barry Grey the " I make all the women cry " singer
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 10:59 |
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 10:30 |
OK then Bill White !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yarstruly
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 10:26 |
Jethro Fish wrote:
I don't want to choose! I don't want to chose! I don't want to chose!
I shocked myself by voting for Alan White but I really love them both. I think my vote was swayed by two things; Alan White is a rockier drummer and almost everyone else love's Bruford. There you have it.
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Like Jethro Said!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 09:41 |
Alan Bruford !!!!!!!!!
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rexsvecia
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 09:08 |
Well, we're talking about two great drummers here. I casted my vote for BB as I've always loved his playing (that snare sound, oooooh!).
White is such an accomplished drummer and he's great in the "later" Yes, but Bruford... well, he PLAYS the drums. I could listen to only him playing solo (as I could do with Bozzio or Vinnie C as well...) and that's a rare thought when it comes to drummers!
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Posted: January 26 2005 at 07:37 |
Why even try to compare ??? Everybody is a Giant...........
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 15:59 |
I 've been playing not only drums since I was in diapers but Bruford was the ONLY drummer that scared the pants off me. Why don't you Bruford opponents just keep your traps shut?
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fairyliar
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Posted: January 25 2005 at 14:23 |
Alan was in the bad period of Yes???!!!
I didn't know Relayer or Goin for the one were bad albums...moreover i love Drama, Union, Keystudio and The Ladder even if they're controversed (above all Union).
I really don't know why people are so angry with Union, it's a real cool album with good prog songs (The More we live, Angkor Wat...) and great neoprog tunes (The Miracle of life, Lift Me Up...). It's one of my favorite :)
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Posted: January 23 2005 at 12:33 |
i like alan whites style. but. both drummers are very talented. but the prize goes to bruu! BRUU I LOVE YOU
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JrKASperov
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Posted: January 23 2005 at 11:10 |
If that is true, how come after CTTE Yes made relatively mediocre albums?
Bruford added the rythym virtuosity to Yes in Fragile and a bit less on
CTTE, something that White just lacks. Whenever I listen to White, I
just hear a mash, I don't find the lovely soft 'anti-rythym' style
Bruford plays like on Heart of the Sunrise, in the 'basssolo' part in
the beginning, where Mister Bruford alters his bass and snare a lot on
the beat. As he himself said: he can be happily playing 4/4 and make it
sound like it's 9/8, I've never found white to be outside his basic
thumping.
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Epic.
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fairyliar
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Posted: January 23 2005 at 09:27 |
I have two answers: to hear in solo, i prefer Bruford but with Yes i really vote for White, he is more in the Yes sound.
I saw White live with Yes, great drummer, very energic.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: January 22 2005 at 14:45 |
BRUFORD IS ONE OF TWO DRUMMERS WHO SCARE THE BEJESUS OUT OF ME.
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