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    Posted: January 14 2007 at 12:53
Granted that a lot of the Doors material is blues-based straight-on rock, there are certain Doors pieces that are avant garde art rock extrordinaire, especaially in its time: The End, Unknown Soldier, Light My Fire, When the Music's Over, the entire Soft Parade lp, Rider's on the Storm, to name a few.... The Doors belong here, no doubt in my mind.
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I think they are a great addition to proto prog genre!
 
If the genre itself (along with related) are seen as a bad thing, then it brings another aspect. Maybe the reated and proto reviews + other stuff related to them shouldn't be on the front page, not sure about it though? But they are definitely proto prog!
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The Doors fit as much as the rest of the proto-prog, as much as the Airplane and HP Lovecraft, but god how I hate those darn Doors... and I don't usually react that viscerally to music I don't like. I prefer the "takes all kinds to make a world" approach.
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Points: 441 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2007 at 03:29
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

. Now we simply have to include Hendrix because he is both more progressive and tons more influential than Doors. Ermm
 
Well said and never too soon...
 
Besides, I don't care much for the Doors, but they do have a place here.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:02
^^ I like The Doors, but don't think belong here. But here they are, and I accept that.
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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2007 at 17:44
I dont know if the Doors should be really here, I cant hear any prog influenced by the Doors...but maybe there are, I dont know...
What I do know is that I cant stand them!Confused
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Points: 976 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 19:58
Time to add The Stranglers as prog related.
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Points: 1823 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2007 at 03:54
Shocked 
 
Another shocking addition to the site. I see that Queen and The Beatles are in the top 100 now. I expect that most bands will make it onto Prog Archives sooner or later.


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You know who should be here rather than the Doors? David Bowie

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Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Originally posted by samhob samhob wrote:

I think we should re-define prog .... If we don't we will soon see a lot of other "simply rock" band in here...

GREAT MUSIC isn't prog... great music is great music , prog is prog, (prog can be great, and great music can be non-prog)



I've just had some major déja vu... have you said this before in another thread?



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Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
Snow Dog, please concentrate on this: "Some of these bands became progressive rock bands themselves others did not." In  my opinion The Doors was a band that sounded embryonal progressive but not in the way as The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, The Nice and King Crimson were.

 Exactly, your opinion, but in my opinion it is not so. Its like divergent evolution, The Doors went on to influence...um...other bands,Embarrassed OK, you got. The Doors music just doesn't sound right to me.
 
Personally I woudl rather categorise The Doors as 'eclectic rock' but that's not available at Prog Archives. By the way, excellent ironical sheepish alternative LOL !Thumbs Up
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Proto-Prog is suitable for the Doors, an excellent group, Their early Prog/Psych can be found more on the LPs in my view rather than the compilations.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2007 at 18:11
Ah, well I presumed that because he appeared on stage and sang "Fire" they'd be friends.  I guess they weren't, but we don't know really, as both are unfortunately not around.
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GeckO, where did you get the information that Morrison and Hendrix were friends? I am very curious to that because Jim had no friends Wink Once he joined Jimi on stage very drunk and faked fellatio with him between his legs, before he had also been very rude towards Janis Joplin and David Crosby, only determined to get in conflict with them, he was a notorious troublemaker and I cannot imagine that the very friendly Jimi was on speaking terms with the sociopatic Jim ... Wacko
 
Snow Dog, please concentrate on this: "Some of these bands became progressive rock bands themselves others did not." In  my opinion The Doors was a band that sounded embryonal progressive but not in the way as The Moody Blues, Procol Harum, The Nice and King Crimson were. Personally I woudl rather categorise The Doors as 'eclectic rock' but that's not available at Prog Archives. By the way, excellent ironical sheepish alternative LOL !


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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2007 at 18:04
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

 
 
Snowy, not really. The site definition is:

Proto-Prog definition

Rock Bands in existence prior to 1969 that influenced the development of progressive rock. The late 60's was a predominately experimental period for music. These bands were moving in a stream that eventually led to prog. The influence could have come from new sophisticated forms of writing and playing music, recording techniques, new instruments and vocal harmonies to name a few. Some of these bands became progressive rock bands themselves others did not.
 


Ok, so The Doors were moving in a stream that eventually lead to prog. Well, I'm not sure they were.
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I heard their Strange Days album a few years back. Not prog in any shape or form to me. They might been influetial to some bands, but honestly; is that reason enough to let them be included on a prog-rock site?
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2007 at 18:00
They are.  I know more people who prefer The Doors over Hendrix.  They're more accessible and didn't have out-of-tune guitar solos that went on for ages (I know that's not what Hendrix is about, I'm just saying that, because many people think that's what Hendrix is about).

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Masque, see the forum guidliens on where to place threads.Wink
 
Snowy, not really. The site definition is:

Proto-Prog definition

Rock Bands in existence prior to 1969 that influenced the development of progressive rock. The late 60's was a predominately experimental period for music. These bands were moving in a stream that eventually led to prog. The influence could have come from new sophisticated forms of writing and playing music, recording techniques, new instruments and vocal harmonies to name a few. Some of these bands became progressive rock bands themselves others did not.
 
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Points: 28427 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2007 at 17:57
I've heard the debut and Greatest Hits too. I highly doubt that they were more influential
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2007 at 17:54
Originally posted by samhob samhob wrote:

I think we should re-define prog .... If we don't we will soon see a lot of other "simply rock" band in here...

GREAT MUSIC isn't prog... great music is great music , prog is prog, (prog can be great, and great music can be non-prog)



I've just had some major déja vu... have you said this before in another thread?

Ansen: I think you'll find The Doors are pretty influential, perhaps more so than Hendrix. Wink  You've also only heard on Doors album, so you cannot really say you dislike them.  By the way, Hendrix and Jim Morrison were friends of each other (not that has anything to do with it).


Mandrakeroot: have you got a new translator? Wink


Edited by Geck0 - January 01 2007 at 18:01
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