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Poll Question: Should System of a Down be added as Art Rock?
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    Posted: May 29 2007 at 14:06
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ their songs are interesting mixes of various genres ... metal being a main ingredient. I can understand if people coming from different genres and not too familiar with metal don't view them as a metal band, they're also rooted in Alt-Rock/Punk/Crossover.
 
I don't know what "Alt-Rock" is supposed to sound like, or "Crossover", but I don't really hear punk in the mix.
 
Hard Rock to me is Led Zep, Deep Purple et al - and I don't hear that.
 
...and I definitely don't hear Prog Rock either LOL
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^ the entire spectrum of metal is broad and alternative metal is even more vague and ill defined, so it is purely a matter of personal opinion as to whether SoaD are metal or not. I still maintain that (with Mezmerise/Hypnotise) they are closer to hard rock than metal. However, whichever they are is completely immaterial, they not be prog.
 
(I have heard the debut album, but not Toxicity)
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^ their songs are interesting mixes of various genres ... metal being a main ingredient. I can understand if people coming from different genres and not too familiar with metal don't view them as a metal band, they're also rooted in Alt-Rock/Punk/Crossover.
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Not metal???? Confused
 
Have you heard the first two albums?
 
Chop Suey is a partially thrash-based chunk of pure manic metal to my ears - hard rock (in my book) doesn't have that metallic edge or use thrash.
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Originally posted by Matt Dickens Matt Dickens wrote:

Potential to become progressive is not progressive in the least bit. The only song I've heard that even has a few elements of prog would be 'Question'. It kind of seems like they become less inspired with each new release. I also can't stand Daron Malakian doing as much singing as he did on the last two.
 
They definetly do not belong here and I feel that the chances of them ever changing their sound to a more progressive format (or anything besides what they've been regurgitating since the last millenium) are slim to none.
Agreed, could be progressive is not enough. For what they are attempting to do they should be progressive, but they just aren't progressing themselves or their music. However, I must admit I've warmed to them slightly since seeing them at Download, but I cannot even accept that they are metal - they are just hard rock. (Doesn't Malakian sing on Question!?)
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2007 at 14:23
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no.



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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:

definitely - NO. This is typical heavy metal band for me. I can't find anything prog there.
I agree that they're not prog ... but there's hardly anything "typical" about them - they're the most "atypical" metal band I know.LOL

 

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Sorry but the only SOAD's song I like is Toxicity (I even knwo how to play it on bass...but it isn't too difficult in fact ). For me it's too heavy kind of music, something completely out of prog-rock context . But I don't like progressive metal too, so probably I'm not the best person to rate them.
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Their Bungle influence don't make'em prog. They have some prog, experimental or even avant moments, but that not enough IMO.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:

definitely - NO. This is typical heavy metal band for me. I can't find anything prog there.


I agree that they're not prog ... but there's hardly anything "typical" about them - they're the most "atypical" metal band I know.LOL
 
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Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:

definitely - NO. This is typical heavy metal band for me. I can't find anything prog there.


I agree that they're not prog ... but there's hardly anything "typical" about them - they're the most "atypical" metal band I know.LOL
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While I don't think they should be added, I don't believe that they should be completely written off either. System right now stands on a threshold between Prog Metal, and Thrash Metal, while most of their stuff hint's towards Thrash, they do have a few bluesy Jazzy pieces, not to mention Vicinity of Obscenity sounds alot like say hmm Mr. Bungle, I am very much looking forward to their next album (If it happens of Course) to see where they take their sound. 
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2007 at 08:31
Originally posted by toolis toolis wrote:


SOAD are far more prog than say Metallica.. and there's no other more suitable word to describe their music...
 
SOAD more prog than Metallica?
 
HOW?
 
Oh - I see what you're doing....LOL
 
 
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definitely - NO. This is typical heavy metal band for me. I can't find anything prog there.
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Maybe some avat garde elements, but not progressive

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I think they could fit in nicely with prog related, I mean they're not over the top prog, but they are very creative and experiment alot with different timbres, structures, tempo changes...
Their guitarist got the sound he wanted for their last two albums by sticking acoustic guitars on a wall, pointing his guitar amp at them and miking them up!!
If I were to personally categorise them as prog related Art Metal.

People seem too concerned with setting a genre that is meant to be about breaking genres. It's progressive rock! The name itself is extremely ambiguous, people are trying to define something that shouldn't necessarily be defined.

Even though this topic has been done to death, I like that there a poll has been made, even though the results don't further what I believe in.

Edited by tremulant - May 28 2007 at 06:31
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Points: 466 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2007 at 05:52
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

No. This has been discussed to death, so see why here:

System of a Down - close to prog?

system of a down? Prog?

System of The Down

System of a Down

System of a Down: Prog?

System of a Down for the archive?

System of a Down

about system of a down

system of a down...

System of a Down


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SOAD are far more prog than say Metallica.. and there's no other more suitable word to describe their music...
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2007 at 02:45
^I knew we'd discussed this before.
 
Not even close. Wink
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Points: 846 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2007 at 00:45
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

No. This has been discussed to death, so see why here:

System of a Down - close to prog?

system of a down? Prog?

System of The Down

System of a Down

System of a Down: Prog?

System of a Down for the archive?

System of a Down

about system of a down

system of a down...

System of a Down



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