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Poll Question: Japan or US? Whose got the best new stuff?
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    Posted: May 15 2008 at 17:36
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

lol RIO namedropping. 


You can think what you want. I don't care. I tried to focus on what I think is progs two most vibrant scenes, and all their largely ignored bands.

Cool that you rediscovered that great Happy Family longtrack, Logan.
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lol RIO namedropping. 
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I like OOIOO and Boredom, so Japan :)
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Good topic, so I thought I'd do a little bump.  Love to hear recommendations not mentioned yet for a chamber "prog" lover.
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Points: 38719 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2008 at 21:03
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

I think the long track on their debut Naked King (by Happy Family) is fantastic. 


I have that album, been too long since I last listened to it, and you're damned right.  It's awesome.
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I think the long track on their debut Naked King (by Happy Family) is fantastic. 
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Happy Family doesn't do it much for me either.  I love Koenjihyakkei (Angherr Shisspa in particular).  That and Bondage Fruit are my favourite Japanese Zeuhl bands (love what I've heard of Amygdala too).  I much prefer Bondage Fruit to Happy Family.   I was actually quite  disappointed with Tossco (it having such a huge reputation).

One I really like that no one has voted for is Motor Totemist Guild (which I prefer to 5UU's at this time)... Still like U Totem rather more than both, though.

And other than Thinking Plague's Extremis, which is good, I'm not that big on Thinking Plague either (have a few albums).  Do love Boredoms when in the mood, though.


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Hmm...
 
Honestly, the jap scene is a little hit or miss for me. Ruins is cool, Koenjirtgfchsfyirasytezg is also quite good, and OOIOO are great. Happy family doesnt really do it for me though. Same with Boredoms. I do want to investigate Bondage Fruit more though (only heard samples thus far)
 
American scene  is much more hit...at least what I've heard of it. Thinking Plague is probably the one I enjoy least but In Extremis is brilliant. Of the bands above...I'll give a vote to Secret Chirfs 3...who rocketed into my top ten favorite bands just months after hearing them for the first time (and promply collecting their discog).
 
I certainly respect both though, and both have provided fun discoveries of late.
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Mr Bungle are one of my favorite bands, so they get my vote for now. I do love most of the other bands in this poll as well, other than those Im not familiar with yet.
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love that girl

Stereo Bugscope 00's a machine-noise album, sorta like Sachiko M except with on/off switches. Hoahio is a lot like After Dinner would be if the songs were more circular, maybe, maybe not, and Kam-pas-nel-la is sort of an all-star After Dinner with less instrumental capacity/variety. her albums where she's credited as Haco in the band's name get closer to various pop song forms, maybe, maybe not... there's a "Haco & (some japanese guy that sort of has two last names)" which features a track composed entirely on the NES, and some passing Bjorky qualities.

the only thing I can remember about the Happiness Proof album is that she sings the line "World Art Fiesta" in a drunky-funky way.


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I'm defenetly gonna check out the rest of After Dinner's vocalist & genious pop-decontructivist,
(+miniature 13-string koto, plastic flute, keyboards, percussion, synthesizers, tapes, tambourine, volley ball, tapes,etc..) Haco's other work soon. She looks fantastic too:
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Bringing this back on-topic belatedly, what a heck of a lot of good bands here.  After Dinner is indeed terrific.
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It's a lot of work to add a band (especially researching and writing the bio).  I've wondered if a "holding cell" category might be a good idea for the site.   A place where approved bands could be listed (an incomplete band page) before adding in all the details (then moved when one has had time to prepare the proper presentation).  Could also double as a category for bands that have been deemed PA worthy, but the category is still in dispute (though that might be too disorganised).


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Its not your fault their not included yet, avestin. Its everyone else not contributing and helping out, like myself. But my girlfriend (and I) already thinks I spend way to much time here.
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I'll be adding Lacrymosa; it's my fault it takes time, Busy times at work and other worries at home.
 
 
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I love what I've heard of Lacrymosa.  Good call!  I think it was approved before.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Koenjihyakkei's Angherr Shisspa


I tried to play it a little safe. Koenjihyakkei must be the worlds ultimate love or hate band. Bondage Fruit IV or IV are brilliant places to start.

I do enjoy the Zypressen album (probably fivestarred it here), but the drums on it has started to annoy me lately. I think its not on the same level as the rest of the music. Most of the time I rather it was drumless.

Not yet in the archives, but Lacrymosa's two albums (from 84 and 94) are the best Japanese avant/chamber/RIO I've heard.
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Not saying that it wouldn't be a great recommendation for Slartibartfast (this is just personal experience/ preference), but much as I like Happy Family's Toscco, it failed to have as big an impact as Koenjihyakkei's Angherr Shisspa or various Bondage Fruit albums.  Ruins Symphonica might be a good Japanese Zeuhl one to try.

I love that Boredoms album, but it's not going to be easy for most.  I love Laya, and need to listen to more After Dinner.  One I really love is Tipographica.  I also like Zypressen greatly, won't limit this to the new prog scene here, but Wha-ha-ha is fun, Mr. Sirius for some good Japanese Canterbury, and Ground Zero is very good.  Lots of good Japanese Prog for different tastes.


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^For a great, solid start, maybe:  : Laya or Happy Family: Tosco. Both will blow your mind. 
My personal faves may be a bit more risky: After Dinner: Paradise of Replica (wonderfully quirky avantprog-pop) and Boredoms; Vision Creation Newsun (a hypnotic space/kraut/drumorgy).

The only band I couldn't reccomend is Ghost, simply because I don't really know them.
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Out of all of those, sorry to say I've only heard Mr. Bungle and they aren't putting out any new stuff.  Not that I haven't been trying other artists in the past few months that are new to me: Talisma, The Reasoning, Maserati, No Sound, Phideaux, Parallel Mind, The Pineapple Thief, Gongzilla.

My loss, no doubt, for not being up on the Japanese prog scene.  Seems like a lot of Japanese folks have always been big prog supporters.  Alas, my experience of Japanese musicians doesn't extend past Stomu Yamashta and Isao Tomita, oh and also Kodo.

So, considering all that, who from the new Japan prog scene should I check out first?


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