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harmonium.ro
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Topic: Casualties of Applied Metaphysics (Avant/Eclectic) Posted: March 26 2010 at 08:17 |
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From their Progfreak chart: http://progfreak.com/Casualties-of-Applied-Metaphysics,_dbe,artists,_auto_2283326.xhtml?path=pa/recent it seems like no team has taken up on them for a (re)evaluation, so I'm heading this for the ZART. |
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Rivertree
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 06:33 | |||||
as stated before such bands/artists have a controversial status - however - they don't have lost their chance ... in such a case a team can re-evaluate and must have an unanimous decision ... Edited by Rivertree - March 20 2010 at 06:39 |
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Marty McFly
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 05:11 | |||||
Very good point. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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Sckxyss
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 05 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Posted: March 20 2010 at 04:55 | |||||
Just to stir the pot a little... Say a band had two borderline prog/pop albums that got suggested to and rejected by a genre team. Then, a year later, released an undisputable 100% prog album. Have they lost their chance to be in the database because they were already rejected once?
My point is think it should be fair to allow a reevaluation if a band releases new material, especially if there is a significant improvement in quality or progressive tendencies. |
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: March 17 2010 at 10:58 | |||||
In any case, the newest album is a big step forward in quality from what I'd heard before. Keep making music guys!!!
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 17 2010 at 10:55 | |||||
So...
Is any team currently evaluating or re-evaluating this submission? |
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: March 15 2010 at 17:25 | |||||
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: March 15 2010 at 16:06 | |||||
What a shock.
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Tsevir Leirbag
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
Posted: March 15 2010 at 15:57 | |||||
Oh, sorry then
I guess it won't be accepted this time again...
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
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clarke2001
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Posted: March 15 2010 at 09:22 | |||||
Not because it was from members and no because it was amateur. Officially released/singed/purchasable units were evaluated, and evaluated music itself is prog rock. We included loads of amateurish releases worldwide that had nothing to do with our members. We're not friend's music database, not even a good music database, we are listing released prog. Simple as that. I know that you know that, I just had to get it off my chest...and just in case anyone's in doubt. |
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: March 15 2010 at 02:18 | |||||
^ Yeah, they're definitely not Space-Rock.
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DamoXt7942
Forum & Site Admin Group Avant/Cross/Neo/Post Teams Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17488 |
Posted: March 15 2010 at 02:01 | |||||
Also Psych/Space Team have already evaluated Casualties Of Applied Metaphysics around last April (yet I've not joined there) and rejected because of their less Psych/Space essence.
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Dean
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 20:54 | |||||
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What?
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 20:37 | |||||
I think he's right.
I even think NOBODY said they weren't progressive. But that's some time ago, not sure if I remember well.
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
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JLocke
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 20:27 | |||||
Correct me if I am wrong, Dean, but nobody ever doubted that they were progressive when they were proposed the first time; it's just that nobody could quite agree on which genre they belonged in. I don't really see how this rule applies, in that case. My memory could be fuzzy, though.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 19:56 | |||||
Alright, I just wasn't sure if that was what it meant.
We'll stick to the rules.
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
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Dean
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 19:55 | |||||
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What?
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 19:53 | |||||
Means that if ONE member rejects them, they're rejected?
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: March 14 2010 at 19:50 | |||||
CoAM have been rejected by Eclectic and Avant in the past - if they are to be re-evaluated by either team it means they qualify as a "Controversial Band" and require the unanimous vote of every team member.
Edited by Dean - March 14 2010 at 19:50 |
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What?
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Marty McFly
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Posted: March 14 2010 at 19:20 | |||||
There's a discussion about this topic, that's important thing. I have to say that I heard few tracks from their first CD and even I don't want to offend Alex, some of these tracks were unbearable. However, some of you maybe know my relationship with RIO/Avant (Love/Hate), so it just maybe want some time. I'll certainly try their latest album, I hope it will be better beginning. Let's be fair then. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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