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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Very hard to choose between the two. If a gun to my head, I guess I'd go with Moore based on Images and Words far away being my favorite DT album, and assuming Kevin had something to do with that.
And jftr, I'll add that Derek Sherinian is no slouch either.
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Upbeat Tango Monday ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
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Indeed, Cristi, I quite liked it. As a matter of fact I think it's their best record with Mangini on drums and a "top 5" DT record: grandiose, operetic and blatantly over the top. James LaBrie SHINES, Mangini and Myung are precise, Petrucci is not throwing random metal solos 24/7 and Rudess brings quality and ambiance without getting too crazy. Great experiment all around...they even played a bit of tango (Lord Nafaryus)!
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46753 |
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^ I wrote quite a bit and did not save anything but craptcha killed it, I don't know why it did not go, it's usually some emoticon that ruins things.
The only thing that I agree with is that JR is "clusterf*cky" (interesting word that sums up pretty well what JR is doing sometimes, especially on ADTOE and The Astonishing). I remember you being one of the users here that enjoyed DT's last album, so I'll stop here. Tastes are personal indeed... :)
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Upbeat Tango Monday ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
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At cleaning windows and preparing and serving cold dishes, of course. Tastes are personal and I happen to like technical and skilled players. Rudess is a lesser Emerson, but I prefer that to safe landscape music. He's a bit clusterf#cky at times, I give you that...but, on the other hand, Moore lacks punch. Hitting the right notes (like Banks, for instance) is not the same as missing them. Musicians like Moore or the late Wright strike me as artists who deliver rough sketches of something that could have been, without the necessary polish and detail. If I wanted concise and direct, I'd listen to Ariana Grande and read children's books. |
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Squonk19 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2015 Location: Darlington, UK Status: Offline Points: 4792 |
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Judess is a superior player technically, but he gets far too twiddley and obscure at times - positively vaudeville on occasions with his keyboard tones! Moore gets my vote. I would say 'less is Moore ' perhaps...but that's taking puns to a wholly unacceptable level!
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19371 |
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Kevin's keyboard playing on When Dream and Day Unite was perfect. Those punchy, economical textures and bright sounds cut through the mix. Just perfect. Kevin kept it going for the next two albums, I&W and Awake. He's the first guy I heard (since I didn't hear enough of Jens Johansson till later) that made full-time keyboards work in the context of metal. Well, actually, no. The first guy I heard do WAS indeed Rudess, on Vinnie Moore's 1988 album Time Odyssey. "Message in a Dream," in particular. But that's an instrumental album. There are no vocals to work around. Rudess' sound choices have been suspect for many years. I like the RPM stuff. Rudess is the better technical player, I guess, but his lines often come off as notes caught in a vortex, whereas Moore's sound deliberate, varied and tasteful. YMMV, of course.
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at what?
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Upbeat Tango Monday ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
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Rudess is much better
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46753 |
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a monster indeed, an ugly one, just listen to DT's last offering.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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Jordan Rudess - The man is an absolute monster on keyboards.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 46753 |
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Kevin Moore by far.
Moore put in some nice atmosphere in his playing with DT and his solos were great (unlike JR who often seems to solo for the sake of it). Moore is also great in his project Chroma Key and his collaboration with Jim Matheos (two FW albums and OSI). Never found JR's solo work that exciting or interesting.
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DiamondDog ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 15 2011 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 320 |
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Kevin Moore
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jav1919 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2011 Location: Costa Rica Status: Offline Points: 101 |
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Jordan is a pretty good songwriter too
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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Rudess. Kevin's great, but I don't know if I'd enjoy modern DT with Kevin in the band, if they went in the same direction.
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TheClosing ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 11 2010 Status: Offline Points: 527 |
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Technical ability may take you far, but at the end of the day, songwriting trumps all.
Kevin Moore obviously. |
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jav1919 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2011 Location: Costa Rica Status: Offline Points: 101 |
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I went with Rudess because technically speaking he is the best, but Kevin is pretty good too
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GermanZERO ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 15 2010 Location: Spain. Status: Offline Points: 59 |
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Kevin Moore
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GY!BE ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 27 2010 Location: Montreal Status: Offline Points: 538 |
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Rudess (when he had long hair)...
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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