Pagan's Mind vs Symphony X

Iconoclast, taken by itself without context, is a very good album.

Symphony X for me. Far superior IMO.

^. Agreed! ICONOCLAST is badass. I love it. When i feel like a really good tech metal/heavy metal album I through that double discer on! Great stuff indeed. Saw them live last year. They opened for ICED EARTH.

Yeah, after listening to "Iconoclast", I would have to say that Symphony x's later stuff is incredible. I do love Pagan's Mind's new album.

Edited by The Mystical - February 23 2013 at 18:22

dtguitarfan wrote: CCVP wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: CCVP wrote: sleeper wrote: Pagan's Mind are a pretty bog standard DT clone (and have even stole whole parts of Dream Theater songs for tracks on Celestial Entrance, I was not impressed when I first heard Back to the Magic of Childhood Pt2 (I think its that song, havent listened in several years now) and found it to be a rip off of Learning to Live)with nothing special about them bands like Suspyre and Haken do the same thing with far more creativity and quality. Blending Neo-Classical Power Metal and prog was a pretty original thing back in the early-mid 90's and, granted SX havent progressed much, if at all, in the near 20 years since but I find their music very enjoyable still with each album. One of the very few vanilla prog metal bands that I still listen to on even a semi regular basis.   I disagree with you on this last paragraph, bro. They changed their sound since the 90's, but they  stagnated after V - Mythology Suite. Stagnated?  Their last two albums are more metal, and more widely appealing to fans of other sub-genres of metal, than any other of their albums.  I, personally, prefer The Odyssey to anything else they've done, but I can recognize the development of their style in the last two albums and appreciate it for what it is as well. But they have not brought anything new to the table except being heavier.  That depends on your viewpoint.

dtguitarfan wrote: CCVP wrote: sleeper wrote: Pagan's Mind are a pretty bog standard DT clone (and have even stole whole parts of Dream Theater songs for tracks on Celestial Entrance, I was not impressed when I first heard Back to the Magic of Childhood Pt2 (I think its that song, havent listened in several years now) and found it to be a rip off of Learning to Live)with nothing special about them bands like Suspyre and Haken do the same thing with far more creativity and quality. Blending Neo-Classical Power Metal and prog was a pretty original thing back in the early-mid 90's and, granted SX havent progressed much, if at all, in the near 20 years since but I find their music very enjoyable still with each album. One of the very few vanilla prog metal bands that I still listen to on even a semi regular basis.   I disagree with you on this last paragraph, bro. They changed their sound since the 90's, but they  stagnated after V - Mythology Suite. Stagnated?  Their last two albums are more metal, and more widely appealing to fans of other sub-genres of metal, than any other of their albums.  I, personally, prefer The Odyssey to anything else they've done, but I can recognize the development of their style in the last two albums and appreciate it for what it is as well.

sleeper wrote: CCVP wrote: sleeper wrote: Pagan's Mind are a pretty bog standard DT clone (and have even stole whole parts of Dream Theater songs for tracks on Celestial Entrance, I was not impressed when I first heard Back to the Magic of Childhood Pt2 (I think its that song, havent listened in several years now) and found it to be a rip off of Learning to Live)with nothing special about them bands like Suspyre and Haken do the same thing with far more creativity and quality. Blending Neo-Classical Power Metal and prog was a pretty original thing back in the early-mid 90's and, granted SX havent progressed much, if at all, in the near 20 years since but I find their music very enjoyable still with each album. One of the very few vanilla prog metal bands that I still listen to on even a semi regular basis.   I disagree with you on this last paragraph, bro. They changed their sound since the 90's, but they  stagnated after V - Mythology Suite. Well, they definitely changed a bit from The Odyssey onwards, but I'm never sure by how much or in what way, other than getting heavier. I know plenty of people say they're less prog but to be honest I dont hear much less from Paradise Lost or Iconoclast compared to Divine Wings... and Twilight in Olympus.

The Mystical wrote: Wow, I see you all passionately prefer Symphony X...how come? To me (just my opinion) they seem not very original. I think I prefer PM because they are more surreal and diverse.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 29 2012 at 21:59

Pagan's Mind are a pretty bog standard DT clone (and have even stole whole parts of Dream Theater songs for tracks on Celestial Entrance, I was not impressed when I first heard Back to the Magic of Childhood Pt2 (I think its that song, havent listened in several years now) and found it to be a rip off of Learning to Live)with nothing special about them bands like Suspyre and Haken do the same thing with far more creativity and quality.

Blending Neo-Classical Power Metal and prog was a pretty original thing back in the early-mid 90's and, granted SX havent progressed much, if at all, in the near 20 years since but I find their music very enjoyable still with each album. One of the very few vanilla prog metal bands that I still listen to on even a semi regular basis.  

Andy Webb wrote: CCVP wrote: Andy Webb wrote: Symphony X every time. PM is good, but they're on a totally different level than SX. I hope you mean that they are in a much lower level than SX.  well duh