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    Posted: November 02 2012 at 10:10
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

This seems to be the setlist that was played last night:
 

NIGHT B version 1*

Set 1:

Video Intro (Gearing Up)
Subdivisions
The Big Money
Force 10
Grand Designs
Middletown Dreams
Territories
Analog Kid
The Pass
Where's My Thing (with drum solo)
Far Cry

Intermission (Clockwork Angels String Ensemble enters)

Set 2:

Video Intro (The Appointment)
Caravan
Clockwork Angels
The Anarchist
Seven Cities of Gold
The Wreckers
Headlong Flight (with drum solo)
Halo Effect (with guitar solo intro)
Wish Them Well
The Garden
Dreamline
The Percussor (drum solo)
Red Sector A
YYZ
(Clockwork Angels String Ensemble exits)
Working Man (with reggae intro)

Encore:

Tom Sawyer
2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx/Grand Finale
Video Outro (Office Of The Watchmaker)

* played 9/9/2012 in Bristow, VA

 

Source: http://www.rushisaband.com/setlist_pop.php?tour_id=199



After my concert (and review) from last night, I thought I'd check out your review again, and it's interesting how similar our shows were.  I didn't spend much of my review talking about the songs themselves, but if I had, I would have said many similar things to yours.  Some interesting setlist substitutions between your set and mine (I understand they have several variants on the basic set list where they switch some songs in and out):

Middletown Dreams in my show was replaced with Limelight.  I think it was strategically placed to keep people engaged during what would have otherwise been an obscuro trip through Power Windows territory which few people were really amped up to do.

Seven Cities of Gold in my show was replaced with Carnies.  Both pretty good songs, probably about an equal switch.  Carnies was probably the highlight of the CA set at my show. 

Working Man in my show was replaced with Spirit of Radio.  Probably the only "classic" song I was kind of disappointed to hear.  30 years of hearing it, and I'm just starting to get a little tired of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 19 2012 at 16:47
One month later, I saw them in Monteral on the same tour. I think it was great. It was very different from the Time Machine Tour. More synthetizer tracks from Signals, and Power Windows. The first part was great. It will conveice me to buy the whole Signals album. The second part with the eight-people string orchestra was even better. I love Clockwork Angels so that wasn't much of a problem. However, I expected more classics from the 70's and less songs from CA. Although this show was less funny and with less classics than on the time machine tour, Rush are still great. Geddy's voice was even better compared to the last tour. There were many impressive visual effects. There wasn't a seat that was empty. But there were many fans that were dissapointed. One even said to me that this was the worst show he even went in 20 years. But the vast majority of them were not. They were satified. Not every show should be the same.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2012 at 22:04
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Uh-oh.  Well, I'm committed to go - maybe I'll go get a beer during the CA set.  At least I'm not alone in really being underwhelmed by that album.


What baffles me are those who trash Vapor Trails but love Clockwork Angels.

Edit: However, hearing it live may increase your appreciation of it.  I know that's happened to me before (not often, but it happens).


It did, Rob.  Got that beer ($10 Ouch) but saw most of the CA set, and I enjoyed it.

Definitely a show for Power Windows fans.  They did half the album:  Big Money, Grand Designs, Middletown Dreams, and Territories.  Overall incredibly 80s laden.  Remarkable in fact, that the only pre-1980 song performed was the final encore of 2112 (Overture/Syrinx/Grand Finale).  Opened the gig with Subdivisions.

I can get over not doing 70s stuff (since I've seen plenty of it), but no Counterparts songs were a bit disappointing.  Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:25
Don't have much to add, but I can't contain myself because I'm seeing them in 19 days!!!!! I actually am excited about the setlist, because I really like the new album and prefer the Signals - Power Windows era to their 70's stuff. (Blasphemy! Tongue) It's like they planned the show especially for me!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2012 at 22:13
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I don't get the dislike for either VP or CA....both are fantastic works by Rush. Sure its not AFTK or Hemispheres, but damn if those albums don't kick a$$.
I have always liked Caravan and BU2B, live those songs are power houses.......I am really looking forward to hearing the rest of the songs off CA live.
 
But I am not surprised at all the fuss over the setlist.....when you have soooo many amazing albums to choose from and people have so many different favs, almost impossible to please the masses.....Bring it on.
 
I am still hoping for that 3 hour show with 16 songs:
 
Cygnus X1
Hemispheres
Fountain of Lamneth
Necromancer
By-Tor/Snowdog
Xanadu
La Villa Strangiato
Natural Science
Camera Eye
Earthshine
Secret Touch
Clockwork Angels
The Garden
Beneath, Between & Behind
Jacobs Ladder
 
Encore:
2112-Side 1
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2012 at 00:41
I don't get the dislike for either VP or CA....both are fantastic works by Rush. Sure its not AFTK or Hemispheres, but damn if those albums don't kick a$$.
I have always liked Caravan and BU2B, live those songs are power houses.......I am really looking forward to hearing the rest of the songs off CA live.
 
But I am not surprised at all the fuss over the setlist.....when you have soooo many amazing albums to choose from and people have so many different favs, almost impossible to please the masses.....Bring it on.
 
I am still hoping for that 3 hour show with 16 songs:
 
Cygnus X1
Hemispheres
Fountain of Lamneth
Necromancer
By-Tor/Snowdog
Xanadu
La Villa Strangiato
Natural Science
Camera Eye
Earthshine
Secret Touch
Clockwork Angels
The Garden
Beneath, Between & Behind
Jacobs Ladder
 
Encore:
2112-Side 1
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 16:53
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Uh-oh.  Well, I'm committed to go - maybe I'll go get a beer during the CA set.  At least I'm not alone in really being underwhelmed by that album.


What baffles me are those who trash Vapor Trails but love Clockwork Angels.

Edit: However, hearing it live may increase your appreciation of it.  I know that's happened to me before (not often, but it happens).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 12:00
Uh-oh.  Well, I'm committed to go - maybe I'll go get a beer during the CA set.  At least I'm not alone in really being underwhelmed by that album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 11:28
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Great review, Scott! Sorry to hear you were disappointedOuch


Seconded - really looking forward to the O2 Arena in London next year.

If you think Scott was disappointed, you should see some of the Rush forums , you'd think the guys were deliberately ripping people off by playing what they want to (ie a new album they're justifiably proud of) instead of the same songs they've been playing for the last 35 years or so.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2012 at 05:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2012 at 16:21

On the R30 tour they played a part of Bastille Day as part of the R30 Overture, but that is it as far as I can remember.  I agree that it would be great to see Bastille Day or Lakeside Park. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2012 at 16:17
I would like to see Rush play Lakeside Park or Bastille Day again, just for the fact that I've been seeing Rush on & off since 1981, and Caress Of Steel is the only album I have yet to see them play a song from Cry

I realize that Geddy can't quite hit some of those notes any more, but they could down tune, or something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2012 at 09:54
Originally posted by Jbird Jbird wrote:

I saw the Chicago show (15 Sep) and I loved it! I'm glad they didn't do another greatest hits tour, as thats what the last one was.
The last one was Moving Pictures in its entirety, which at least for me, was more enjoyable than most of Clockwork Angels in its entirety.  I certainly don't fault Rush for playing so many new songs from their new album and trying something new by playing them with the string section and I am sure that I would have been absolutely thrilled if I loved Clockwork Angels, but I don't.  I don't hate it by any stretch of the imagination, but I guess that it just hasn't revealed its brilliance to me yet.  This is sad for me, because I love everything that Rush has done from Not Fade Away through Snakes and Arrows.  I really want to love CA, but it just hasn't happened.  I'll admit that I was lukewarm to Snakes and Arrows prior to seeing them live, but after seeing them play the songs live I had a new appreciation of the album, and now I think it is wonderful.  I hoped that the same would happen with CA, but the same things that disappoint me with the studio album also cropped up live.  To me, Geddy's voice sounds horrible on these songs and the combo bass/drums of Geddy and Neil come across as a wall of heavy bass sound rather than as decipherable musical notes and just kind of drowns out the whole experience.  The strings were a nice touch when they could be heard, but were really hard to hear through the wall of bass. 
 
In regards to greatest hits versus lesser known songs, in theory I am happy to hear the lesser known songs.  As I said in my review, it should have been a diehard fan's wet dream.  I am pretty certain that I have never heard Grand Designs, Territories or Middletown Dreams live.  They did a great job performing them and I enjoyed hearing them, but I also felt that they lost the crowd when they played all 3 songs in a row.  Play 3 "hits" in that time frame and I suspect that the crowd would have gone bonkers.  
 
I get the impression from some of the response posts that I am coming acrossed as though I hated the show, and that is entirely not the case.  "Mildly disappointed" doesn't mean I hated the show.  I quite enjoyed it.  But there is also a reason that a band has "hits" and it is because those are songs that fans like to hear, and when you only see the band live once a year and you pay that kind of money for tickets you hope to hear more "hits", since that is what makes you a fan.  Maybe it will happen next time (ha ha) but if they aren't going to play the "hits" than play the Xanadus and Cygnuses and Trees and if you really want to see a Rush concert go bonkers play Necromancer or Fountain of Lamneth.  (OK half of the fans would go absolutely bonkers and the rest would head up to get a beer but...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2012 at 06:24
I just saw this thread. Jealousy is a curse but I would have loved to be there. Great times had by all I see. Awesome concert by the sound of it. Hope a DVD is forthcoming soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2012 at 05:53
I saw the Chicago show (15 Sep) and I loved it! I'm glad they didn't do another greatest hits tour, as thats what the last one was.

I'm not a huge fan of the new album at the moment, though I've warmed up to it since it first came out. I really didn't like it much on my first listen, but now I think it's a decent, but not great album with some of Geddy's best bass playing. I kind of understand where they are going on the songs now as opposed to my first listen.

I thought the new songs were pretty good, live. Headlong Flight got a huge roar of approval, a new Rush concert standard I'm thinkin' Smile (probably not for long though, as I think the boys might do one last album/tour after this one, then retire)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2012 at 20:36
I enjoyed the Rush show at the Palace. I am a fan of the Clockwork Angels album. After seeing them play Spirit Of Radio, Freewill, Limelight etc on previous tours, I thought that the set list was a refreshing change of pace. I was happy that we saw Revised Set List B as opposed to A. I really didn't want to see Bravado and Manhattan Project once again and The Body Electric has never been one of my favorites. As far as the string section...I thought they did a great job! I was expecting a "traditional" sit down string section. Instead, they were up and rocking. I thought Caravan sounded amazing with strings. They also really added to the emotional darkness of Red Sector A. I also thought the decision to break up the drum solo into three smaller solos was a great idea. Prior to this, Neil's solo has been very similar in form over the past 10 years or so. I was also glad that they returned to the Overture / Temples Of Syrinx / Grand Finale version of 2112, as last performed on the R30 tour. Hearing "Attention All Planets..." always gives me goose bumps. To me, it was a fitting way to end the show. I came away from the show very pleased.

I would like to see them do a tour with an orchestra, similar to what Yes did approximately 10 years ago. They could possibly bring new life into some of their older epics, that they either simply quote, or ignore altogether. I would have faith that they could arrange the orchestra in such a way as to enhance their music without sounding like they just stuck strings on everything, like Metallica did. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2012 at 17:42
Thanks Scott. A critical review never hurts, we don't want to push too many feathers up our Canadian friends' bums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2012 at 13:49
A very good review, Scott, and a pity it wasn't everything you wanted.

I have to say I am struggling with Clockwork Angels. I find it distinctly average, and I will wait for  a lot more listens and time before I review it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2012 at 15:36

Thanks for the review Scott.......Too bad your night was more disappointment than pleasure. Also seems like the sound was not well in the Palace, that never helps

This is the Clockwork Angels Tour, so I expect they will play a lot of the album.....Just like Snakes & Arrows Tour where they played almost the whole album in 2007.
 
I really enjoy CA, so this will be a treat for me. I still think they are prepping their fans for the next tour to be a 70's setlist show.......Kinda like what Iron Maiden did with Somewhere Back In Time Tour.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:59
Sweet.  Thanks!

I actually have Rush in Rio, I must have forgotten it was on there.
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