Favourite Dream Theater Epic?

^Empire is better imo.

^ agreed. That would be just awkward. Also I gotta say that I love DT's WDADU just as much as the next prog head out there, but that album doesnt even come close to the sheer mastery of QUEENSRŸCHE's OPERATION MINDCRIME. that album is the best album of the entire 80's era. I mean DT were just starting out, but I stil say it's an absolutey solid debut album. On the other hand, QUEENSRŸCHE hit thier talent peak with MINDCRIME. They never did better than that album. That was it!!

Ytse_Jam wrote: Prog Snob wrote: Snow Dog wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^What about the remaster? With such bad works, remastering is not enough... That's why "When Dream and Day Reunite" is the answer - sound quality is good, Rudess plays on it, Labrie sings on it, and they even jam out during some of the tunes. Hmmm...sounds worth a listen Don't forget Charlie Dominici and Derek Sherinian coming out to play with the band on Metropolis Part I. Yeah, that part is quite awesome. I hope there will be occasions like that even with moore and portnoy.

I recall Moore stating something about not wanting to do anything with Dream Theater again. The closest thing he did with DT was probably OSI's debut, which had Portnoy as a guest.

Ytse_Jam wrote: Prog Snob wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Talking about Rush? Fine, I guess we're moving back on topic... ;) zumacraig wrote: darkshade wrote: zumacraig wrote: [QUOTE=M27Barney] btw-TFK crew taking over another thread   Although, to be honest, I've been a Dream Theater fan for like 7 years before I became a TFK fan. ah, okay, so it's the DT dudes who took over the TFK thread i'm at systematic chaos at this point.  i was gonna start at the beginning, but i really like jordan rudess.  i've liked everything so far...except some of the hot mastering.  like tfk, it takes a while to get into some of their tunes for me...especially the really metal tunes.   Start from the beginning, you won't regret! When Dream and Day Unite?        Or do you mean the Majesty Demos? At least get When Dream and Day Reunite with James on vocals. Awesome show. When Dream and Day Unite is the best 80s progressive metal album ever released. It is just recorded by a drunk monkey.

I thought Operation: Mindcrime was the best 80s prog metal album? Even still, I'd take Perfect Symmetry over WDADU. The Charlie vocals kill it for me, not the songs themselves.

RedNightmareKing wrote: I feel like WDADU is a lost prog-metal gem, and is always over shadowed by I&W.

I feel like WDADU is a lost prog-metal gem, and is always over shadowed by I&W. 

Ytse_Jam wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^What about the remaster? With such bad works, remastering is not enough... That's why "When Dream and Day Reunite" is the answer - sound quality is good, Rudess plays on it, Labrie sings on it, and they even jam out during some of the tunes. That's a great performance, but how has been already said, Dominici's voice fits better in those songs, and Kevin Moore's awesome key lines are ofter "ruined" by Rudess. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Rudess' playing, but here he just moves away from that 80s sound and arrangement approach that I love in When Dream and Day Unite.

Even though I'm not a great fan of LaBrie's singing, I thought that vocals could only improve on this version of the album... however, indeed Dominici's voice fits better the songs. At first, i didn't really like Dominici's singing, and to hear him though the whole album was a tiresome affair, however the most disapointing aspect of the re-recording was LaBrie's voice. Moore's keyboards were also better suited for the album, and were something special... I don't think Rudess did a bad job himself, it's just that it lost some of the magic. However, where the re-recorded album wins is on heaviness and energy and quality of recording. So, indeed both versions have their pros and cons.

dtguitarfan wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^What about the remaster? With such bad works, remastering is not enough... That's why "When Dream and Day Reunite" is the answer - sound quality is good, Rudess plays on it, Labrie sings on it, and they even jam out during some of the tunes.

That's a great performance, but how has been already said, Dominici's voice fits better in those songs, and Kevin Moore's awesome key lines are ofter "ruined" by Rudess. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Rudess' playing, but here he just moves away from that 80s sound and arrangement approach that I love in When Dream and Day Unite.

dtguitarfan wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^What about the remaster? With such bad works, remastering is not enough... That's why "When Dream and Day Reunite" is the answer - sound quality is good, Rudess plays on it, Labrie sings on it, and they even jam out during some of the tunes.

Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^What about the remaster? With such bad works, remastering is not enough...

That's why "When Dream and Day Reunite" is the answer - sound quality is good, Rudess plays on it, Labrie sings on it, and they even jam out during some of the tunes.