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Atavachron
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Topic: The President Was Shot... Posted: November 29 2013 at 21:11 |
Oh I didn't ignore it, it was just such a cordial, proper English slaying
that there wasn't much to say. Consider yourself lucky it
was so clearcut. The JFK case is mostly a torturous, dark
infatuation that only gets more confused and bizarre.
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 20:31 |
I wouldn't call Liam and Noel Gallagher a painfully British in-joke - remove the "in" and you're closer to the mark.
Obsessed is too strong a word, curiously interested would a better description. For many Brits the Kennedy era epitomised the America that we aspired to, that aspiration ended abruptly in 1963. I don't think many Brits give much credence to the multitude of conspiracy theories, as I implied in my post on Spencer Perceval (that everyone politely ignored), we have no need for alternative explanations.
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 20:00 |
Ah just what this thread needed, a burst of painfully British in-jokes. I hear tell the English are almost as obsessed with the JFK case as we are. Still true?
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 07:52 |
Dean wrote:
...that was an arsy Noel... | And behind the arsey Noel... A dodgy untrustworthy type
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 07:40 |
...that was an arsy Noel...
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 07:19 |
That's not a grassy knoll you can see, it's Dean's beard... Bob's not been around for a while, I notice
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Posted: November 29 2013 at 06:52 |
Jim Garten wrote:
The T wrote:
^Now, did you kill the thread yourself or was there a second Admin hidden somewhere who actually executed the final deletion?
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It was me alone! There's a grainy 8mm film to prove it.
It was the magic deletion... |
I'm not convinced. I've seen the grainy film and it looks like there's a guy in the background holding a delete button.
Edited by chopper - November 29 2013 at 06:54
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Posted: November 28 2013 at 20:15 |
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone....it was a great day of food and family here....
Cheers!
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Posted: November 28 2013 at 17:07 |
Happy Thanksgiving, and thank you to all who participated in this thread. Good discourse.
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 16:21 |
The T wrote:
^Now, did you kill the thread yourself or was there a second Admin hidden somewhere who actually executed the final deletion?
| It was me alone! There's a grainy 8mm film to prove it. It was the magic deletion...
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:48 |
^Now, did you kill the thread yourself or was there a second Admin hidden somewhere who actually executed the final deletion?
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 11:28 |
A PM would have been better than discussing this in a completely unrelated thread methinks - unless there was a conspiracy For the record, I closed the thread as there was no discussion about the interview itself, just a string of opinions (mine included) about the man himself. I took the view very few, if any, members would be interested in discussing an interview with him & it would merely descend into a hate-fest - if I'm wrong in that assertion, mea culpa. Now - back to conspiracy theories
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 10:56 |
^Manson's very existence is objectionable but as far as the thread goes I agree.
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 09:19 |
Atavachron wrote:
It has nothing to do with it being 'okay' or not, don't be paranoid. It simply seemed to run its course and a judgment call was made to close it.
If you want to complain about it, post in a Site Discussion thread.
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Paranoid...? Nope...just think it's silly to close threads that adults are discussing when there;s nothing particularly objectionable about the thread.
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Posted: November 27 2013 at 00:21 |
It has nothing to do with it being 'okay' or not, don't be paranoid. It simply seemed to run its course and a judgment call was made to close it.
If you want to complain about it, post in a Site Discussion thread.
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Posted: November 26 2013 at 22:53 |
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Having just read it, it makes perfect sense it was closed-- the consensus seemed clear, what more is there to say The likely outcome would be a dark discussion about why Charlie was such a mean guy.
'nuff said about it in this thread, me thinks.
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Uhh...so then it's ok to discuss a murder of a President and the nutter who did it but not Manson...?
So if someone wanted to start a serial killer thread about the psychology and personalities involved that thread would be off limits also..?
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Posted: November 26 2013 at 22:05 |
Having just read it, it makes perfect sense it was closed-- the
consensus seemed clear, what more is there to say The
likely outcome would be a dark discussion about why Charlie was such a
mean guy.
'nuff said about it in this thread, me thinks.
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Posted: November 26 2013 at 21:56 |
dr wu23 wrote:
BTW.....does anyone know why Jim closed the Charles Manson thread...?
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I don't understand it either. I guess we are not adult enough to talk about someone so idiotic as Manson.
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Posted: November 26 2013 at 20:47 |
dr wu23 wrote:
what's your take on why Ruby went after Oswald?
At that point it wasn't even clear if Oswald had indeed shot Kennedy.
So why would a small time hood throw his life away and shoot him in
front of the whole world? Was he some kind of Kennedy freak or was
there more going on there? And then he goes to jail and eventually dies
from cancer and never says much about it all.
A conspiracy minded person would think he was getting rid of
Oswald (a loose end...)so the whole case would be blamed on the patsy
and since he was dying from cancer anyway it didn't matter to him. Did
Ruby do this for some one else...like the Mob..? |
It is a mystery and yet, at that time, it seemed to somehow make
sense. The whole country was angry, sad and outraged. The climate
in Texas was reactionary and often violent. Here was a ganster from
the east coast who'd been running numbers, guns, and ladies his whole
life, finally wound up being the "man to see" in Dallas if you wanted
to conduct some action, and ends up gunning down LHO in a police
basement no one other than cops should've been in (had the DPD gotten
Oswald into a car and away, he might've been much safer from that point
on), and ruining his life by being the man who killed our only chance
to hear from the accused and see justice done, instead of becoming the
hero he thought he'd be. That is assuming he wasn't put up to it.
Personally I'm convinced ~ as convinced as one can be in this case ~
that Ruby and Oswald not only knew each other but were actively
involved in local Dallas crime. Whether Lee Oswald was some sort of
Federal informer or provocateur does not negate the probability that these two
were hanging out and up to all sorts of sticky business.
Edited by Atavachron - November 26 2013 at 20:53
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