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Flight123
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Topic: What are your favorite unappreciated Prog albums? Posted: May 05 2015 at 06:35 |
A good yardstick to apply (for those old enough) is to consider when you stopped buying albums by bands 'on release'. If you take the 'big four' for instance, for me it was: ELP - Works Vol. 1; Yes - 90125; Genesis - Duke and Pink Floyd - The Wall. As a teenager, record buying took resources and after these albums, I decided not to invest in these bands any more. Interestingly, I returned eventually with Emerson, Lake and Powell, AWBH and 'Momentary Lapse of Reason'. I did not go back to Genesis unless you count 'Three Sides Live'.
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Posted: May 04 2015 at 22:43 |
Go out on a limb here..
Considering John Tout just passed away and I am currently listening to Ashes Are Burning, I have a big soft spot for the Renaissance albums from the 80s (which Ashes is not). I know, it doesn't have Tout. But I love Camera Camera. I think it's a unique rendering of a band that formed in the late 60s reinventing itself in the 80s (a symphonic prog band on IRS no less) in a way that wasn't really awful. It's not always effective to prove a point by counterexample but let's look at the other examples. The integration of new production techniques and stylistic crossover in the 80s from extant groups of the 70s wasn't always pretty! At least in a retrospective sense, Camera Camera is relevant in a way that stands on its own merits. It's really enjoyable to hear and might lead fans of 80s synth pop into the seminal Renaissance albums of the 70s. A thought.
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Posted: May 02 2015 at 12:28 |
How about... The Beach Boys - Endless Summer and Pet Sounds.
Just one example, overappreciated is underappreciated, and I call this "Sgt. Pepper Syndrome."
I have a friend who is a huge Animal Collective fan. He's an independent artist who makes EDM, and almost everything he listens to is contemporary. Basically, he pigeonholed the Beach Boys as AM radio nostalgia. Although I played these two records frequently while we worked together, he never heard them. Then one day, after reading a "cool review" by a "cool writer," I played them again. That's what it took to bring out the brilliance to him. He needed somebody else (not me, I'm not cool) to open his mind to the possibility of the Beach Boys. Then it was like a ray of light. He appreciated both groups (BB and AC) in new dimensions. We talked for a while and he asked me to recommend other discs and artists. There is a lot of other stuff out there that suffers similarly. Either the artist or the album, or a song off the album, became so big that it's colored our interpretation of it in ways that we might not be aware is happening.
That's why... and I hope I don't offend anyone here... why I butt heads with the All Music Guide, and similar all-encompassing guides. Their writers don't always foster understanding or encourage digestion, so much as they levy an arbitrary value judgement on a creative work of art. That's at the core of appreciation. I appreciate Ozu, although I don't particularly enjoy all of his movies. I appreciate Sting, although I don't particularly care for Mr. Sting's works. There is value in everything and this is seperate from taste. I go out and see for myself what these things mean and where thhey fit into their time and in my time. I do the leg work because I enjoy it. Not everyone does, or can do it (CAN! I'm doing Saw Delight right now). So when writers say something is "nonessential," "for hardcore fans only," or "not the best example and you can pass it up" etc., I find this is destructive to music appreciation.
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Posted: April 28 2015 at 10:09 |
Carmen - Fandangos in Space is a groundbreaking album in flamanco prog. Sounds kinda like Jethro Tull in places since they toured with Tull in the early 70s, but really, a average rating under 4.00 is ludicrous. One of my favorites.
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 18:27 |
and Italian one shot wonder Foglie di Vetro and its self-titled
release
From.uz- Sodom & Gomorrah
Final Conflict- Return of the Artisan
Isotope- Illusion
Mad Fellaz- same
Both Resonaxis albums – same and Hymnarium
Minstrel- Faust
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 18:17 |
Then we have
Both Xang albums- Destiny of a Dream and The Last of Lasts
Carpe Nota- same
Patrick Broguiere- Mont St-Michel
Cosmos Dream- How to Reach Infinity
Exodus- Most Beautiful Day
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 18:10 |
Lets start with:
Italian one shot wonder Sunscape and its self-titled release
State Urge- White Rock Experience
John G. Perry- Sunset Wading and Seabird
Lebowski- Cinematic
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Michael678
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 15:45 |
Yes - 90125 Genesis - We Can't Dance King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon Pink Floyd - The Division Bell (i feel like)
sorry, that's all i could think of.....OOOHH
The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour
hey, it is prog-related isn't it?!
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 14:53 |
Anderson, Wakeman, Bruford and Howe - ST Yes - Big Generator King Crimson - Discipline, Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair Genesis - Abacab
All from the eighties and all much maligned.
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 12:16 |
Drama and Magnification - Yes
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Posted: April 26 2015 at 20:45 |
I do like AWBH and Magnification, but the one Yes album I never see mentioned is The Ladder. I know there are some less than stellar tracks on it (if I never hear the Messenger again I'd be just fine with that) but the title track is one of the most enjoyable songs Yes ever put out. Not as complex as much of their finer work, but just great fun.
Edited by emigre80 - April 26 2015 at 20:46
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Posted: April 26 2015 at 20:18 |
Pell Mell-Moldau Just plainly ignored and belittled (or both), this album will surprise you as it is a 1981 release, but unusually doesn't sound like one, and fits in more in a kind of mid seventies symphonic prog way. And it is all instrumental, which works in it's favor, too. Check it out. (not to be confused with the song Moldau from the band's debut album Marburg)
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Posted: April 26 2015 at 19:54 |
Drama - Yes Ummagumma - Pink Floyd Too Old To Rock 'N Roll, Too Young To Die - Jethro Tull David Bowie (1967) - David Bowie The Aerosol Grey Machine - Van Der Graaf Generator
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 12:37 |
I like the always flawed but always interesting nature of many of Rick Wakeman's solo albums such as: Fields of Green, Retro 1 & 2, Rock and Roll Prophet, Can you hear me, and many others.
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 10:01 |
The Sum of No Evil by TFK and Fluid Druid by Druid. These are really underrated in my opinion.
Edited by Hrychu - April 15 2015 at 10:02
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 08:37 |
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LOL. You forgot about Dark Side of the Moon and Pawn Hearts
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 08:34 |
Pastmaster wrote:
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds It has a lower score than the random, amateur, ugly assortment of noises called Ummagumma. Come on, people! This one's great!
Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark (prog related)
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I completely agree with Obscured by Clouds, probably my favorite Floyd album after Animals.
That Iron Maiden album is great too. |
Animals is my favorite as well
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 03:31 |
Marillion - Holidays in Eden Rush - Power Windows Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds Alquin - Nobody Can Wait Forever Deep Purple - Stormbringer Richard Wright - Wet Dream & Broken China Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling Ark - Burn the Sun Dream Theater - When Dream & Day Unite and many others, I'll get back.
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 01:49 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Yes - Fly From HereI'm pretty sure it will become a classic in the future.
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I'm pretty sure it won't Magnification has more chance from later Yes releases At the time Drama was derided by many because of the Buggles connection but I reckon that has now achieved full blown 'classic' status but in my view there is nothing later by Yes that fits this description. Anderson, Wakeman, Bruford, Howe could have been a contender if it had been Yes
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Posted: April 14 2015 at 16:56 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds It has a lower score than the random, amateur, ugly assortment of noises called Ummagumma. Come on, people! This one's great!
Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark (prog related)
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I completely agree with Obscured by Clouds, probably my favorite Floyd album after Animals.
That Iron Maiden album is great too.
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