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Yanns 
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 23:39 |
OK, now, I, like all other Mars Volta fans, love the guitar work on L'via. Wow, I always said, great work Omar. But then, yesterday, I'm reading the booklet for the album and it says that John Frusciante plays the first two guitar solos on L'via! Aah, that's annoying.
Anyone else know this????
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Man Overboard
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 23:40 |
Being an owner of the album, yes.  Fruciante has a much different style than Omar...
...have you heard the Tremulent EP? VERY nice guitar work from Omar, kinda Frippy... 
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Yanns
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 00:14 |
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Haven't heard it, Man Overboard. Would like to find it somewhere though.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 00:15 |
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Man, L'via is such a great song
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 03:51 |
omar is still a genius.
frusciante loves prog though.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 06:51 |
 Yanns wrote:
OK, now, I, like all other Mars Volta fans, love the
guitar work on L'via. Wow, I always said, great work Omar. But then,
yesterday, I'm reading the booklet for the album and it says that John
Frusciante plays the first two guitar solos on L'via! Aah, that's
annoying.
Anyone else know this???? |
Flea (also RHCP) has supported TMV throughout and can be heard on trumpet on Francis......................
I Also note that John Frusciante wrote the "editorial - well at least the first piece - in the Q/Mojo Prog special.
In passing, to the older prog heads out there: how much did that
special add to your knowledge..................? So far, that a lot of
people are prepared to write thumbnail sketches about Soft Machine -
4th by a 4th author in 3 years I've read (and I've been involved in the
research for two of them) and interesting to note three of them have
been written from either the prog rock or the straighter jazz
viewpoints. Only one author has done the research to be able to write a
full biography of ~350 pages.
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Infinity
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 07:06 |
They did mention Gentle Giant in that mag though and they did alert me to Pavolv's Dog so that was cool...
The worst part was what they said about modern prog/art rock whatever -
Cave In = Rush meets Bad Religion & Coheed & Cambria = Rush meets Linkin Park - my god, have they actually heard BR and LP!? urgh it reminded it me of that horrible taste you get in your mouth after eating a remegel!
......On the Frusciante point, they're friends, they have shared musical interests and aspirations, they're all musicians....Omar could have played his own composition on it no doubt but it's kinda cool they wanted Mr F's sound and participation........Flea's not the only Trumpet blower out there but they chose him, if you can collaborate with someone that shares the vibe of the essence of what you're doing and can play then it's poetry....and if they're a friend even better.
Be interesting to ask them though, like I wonder if Omar was thinking "man I dunno I just can't get that bit to sound right" in walks John Chilli Pepper and does his thang on the fret board and he's in like Flynn!
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 07:13 |
Infinity wrote:
They did mention Gentle Giant in that mag though and they did alert me to Pavolv's Dog so that was cool...
The worst part was what they said about modern prog/art rock whatever -
Cave In = Rush meets Bad Religion & Coheed & Cambria = Rush meets Linkin Park - my god, have they actually heard BR and LP!? urgh it reminded it me of that horrible taste you get in your mouth after eating a remegel!
......On the Frusciante point, they're friends, they have shared musical interests and aspirations, they're all musicians....Omar could have played his own composition on it no doubt but it's kinda cool they wanted Mr F's sound and participation........Flea's not the only Trumpet blower out there but they chose him, if you can collaborate with someone that shares the vibe of the essence of what you're doing and can play then it's poetry....and if they're a friend even better.
Be interesting to ask them though, like I wonder if Omar was thinking "man I dunno I just can't get that bit to sound right" in walks John Chilli Pepper and does his thang on the fret board and he's in like Flynn!
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I agree on all your points. And like you, the piece in Q Classics on Cave In and Coheed was so way off the mark. I doubt they listened to Cave In or Coheed properly. This is the trouble with some mags, they make rather absurd statements about bands based on 30 seconds of a song or what some else has told them. Shame really, as it may put people off those 2 bands.
I'm sure a lot of people know Coheed, but Cave In are not as well known, but would definitely be appreciated by prog fans on this forum. Check out the song Seafrost on their Antenna album and be impressed.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 07:29 |
I'm sure a lot of people know Coheed, but Cave In are not as well known, but would definitely be appreciated by prog fans on this forum. Check out the song Seafrost on their Antenna album and be impressed.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 10:23 |
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omar is still an excellent guitarist. l'via is just of the amazing guitar works of their career. and omar does play those solos if they play it live. in fact omar actually wrote the parts for john to play.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 10:31 |
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I like John Fuciante. I like The Red Hot Chili Peppers in general.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 11:10 |
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Yeah i knew it, at this moment in time John Frusciante (Dont say he isnt, liten to his solo albums, watch him live its pretty much indesputable that he has the better technique, if you say otherwise its just because your a TMV fanboy) is a superior guitarist to Omar so the guest solos were a nice addition IMO.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 11:16 |
frenchie wrote:
omar is still an excellent guitarist. l'via is just of the amazing guitar works of their career. and omar does play those solos if they play it live. in fact omar actually wrote the parts for john to play. |
When I saw them live he played a strange variation of it with phaser distortion, very cool, it didnt flow the same way (omar has a very cool almost jerky technique) but very awesome nonetheless.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 15:06 |
Hangedman wrote:
Yeah i knew it, at this moment in time John Frusciante (Dont say he isnt, liten to his solo albums, watch him live its pretty much indesputable that he has the better technique, if you say otherwise its just because your a TMV fanboy) is a superior guitarist to Omar so the guest solos were a nice addition IMO. |
All his solo work is great, I agree. I hope some of those facets of his solo work get into the new RCHP albun (coming soon!)
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 17:37 |
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Wow, I was not aware of this. I need to start reading liner notes! My
appreciation for Frusciante just got bumped up a notch. In the past
I've found him to be on the sloppy side.
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 18:13 |
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Great guitar playing is great guitar playing...
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Posted: August 03 2005 at 21:47 |
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Yanns
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 19:05 |
Guys, don't get me wrong, I know the album very well. I've always known Flea and Frusciante were on the album. I love Flea's trumpet on Miranda. But I had always thought that Omar played the first two L'via solos, seeing as I never read the liner notes that closely.
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Posted: August 04 2005 at 19:07 |
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the JF man also did guitar work on "Cicatriz ESP" from the debut album.
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