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iscariot ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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right, that was the intention as i understand it. although i often find myself more drawn to damnation and usually my momentary interests are secularized either to heavy or soft music, so i dont think ive actually ever really sat down with both, one after another. i have found however that damnation (in particular tracks like 'to rid the disease') fit quite nicely into a playlist with sigur ros and other melancholy music. a beer or two doesnt hurt milk the emotion either. |
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Abbath ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 19 2005 Status: Offline Points: 91 |
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You may not believe it, but I can tell you that with the straightest face possible. When you listen to a fair amount of metal, those 3 albums are pretty formulaic. Their older material is so much more original. Differant strokes. |
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WillieThePimp ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 02 2005 Location: Bryan, Texas Status: Offline Points: 421 |
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Somewhat off-topic alert! OH NOZ
Harvest has something captivating in it. I disliked the how the lyrics "stay with me a while" were sung, but the first (pardon my lack of musical theory) 30 seconds contain some of the most beautiful guitar work (especially from Lindgren). |
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You can't possibly hear the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh and go slow. ~Oscar Levant, explaining his way out of a speeding ticket
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iscariot ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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im by no means an expert in any genre, but i wouldnt call it formulaic. i would agree with you if you mean to say that riffs are often repeated, seemingly, more than is necessary, i often end up finding this repetition engrossing and totally acceptable given the natural groove of the music. there is after all so much more at stake in music than just melody, difficulty, rhythm... etc. the combination of all of these things makes it not formulaic, but controlled. if you mean to say that the music is somehow rehashed from their other work, or other artists, id beg to differ, but im afraid that without example on that matter id have to call a stalemate at opinion; as you say, different strokes. |
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FloydWright ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: January 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 369 |
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Ironically, my two favorite albums are just about as opposite in production and style as you can get: MAYH and Damnation.
I actually think MAYH had some of his best lyrics, perhaps because he wrote them in sentence form in Swedish, then translated. Dunno, but that may be why. And the whole concept is just a powerful idea. As for Orchid...I try not to rag on people's English skills, but that WAS a problem. Especially on "Apostle in Triumph". The end of that song...OUCH OUCH OUCH! ![]() |
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Abbath ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 19 2005 Status: Offline Points: 91 |
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Let's understand that Orchid was Opeth trying to differentiate themselves from the scene and in so they were understandably all over the place. But it's really then that I find they were at their most pure form. Just a bunch of guys that were in as much awe of what they were doing as the listener is, be it in a good way or a bad way. It's really the band at their most adventurous. |
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erlenst ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 387 |
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Hmm.. I haven't really interpreted the lyrics myself, but judging from lyrics from Åkerfeldts previous band, Bloodbath, I doubt he's very religious. (They have a song named Bastard son of God, for example) |
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Starwind ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 19 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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I like Opeth's lyrics. As for the growling, you get used to it after a while. My Arms, Your Hearse, Still Life, and Damnation are my favorites. |
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FloydWright ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: January 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 369 |
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It's not that the album hasn't got its good points...it really does. But I do tend to be a stickler for flow and sound quality, so I can't give the same ratings that I do to some of their later works. |
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Abbath ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: January 19 2005 Status: Offline Points: 91 |
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I suppose that in the end, which Opeth era is prefered depends entirely on the listener. |
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Possessed ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 10 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 430 |
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It will take some time to get used to, but afterwards you'll appreciate the harsher vocals. |
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SheriffJB ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Actually,
Opeth were a "death metal" band long before they released Damnation. Damnation was almost a "break" for fans that weren't into the growls, IMO. I have a special place in my ear for Damnation, but musically Deliverance impressed me far more. I'd say Blackwater Park beats them both down though. |
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bogdan. ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: June 04 2005 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 61 |
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That is not true. Progressive music is not about the musicians 'showing off' their ability, but the structure of music. Remember that. And why is Opeth prog, read in their biography on this site http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=1122. |
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying: And this same flower that smiles to-day To-morrow will be dying. Carpe Diem! |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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I didn't hear Roger Waters 'showing off' much with his bass playing, anyway
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DavidInsabella ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 317 |
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Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be.
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colin007 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 31 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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yes. |
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This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
Embrace this moment. Remember. We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion. |
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DavidInsabella ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 317 |
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Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be.
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FloydWright ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: January 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 369 |
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Gilmour and his guitar, however... ![]() |
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colin007 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: May 31 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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get damnation and go from there. there are a lot of floydian styles and influences, as well as porcupine tree. so theres the prog, and there are no harsh vocals on that CD. |
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This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
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DavidInsabella ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 317 |
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