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floydaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 30 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 240 |
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Colaiuta is definitely more skilled as a drummer but i'm not too sure about him being as impactful, innovative or creative as peart. |
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Shack Man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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You only think he is overrated, so what you think is wrong, because Neil Peart has lived up to his glory. |
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Extraordinary how potent cheap music is...
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Cygnus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 12 2005 Status: Offline Points: 520 |
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[QUOTE=Retrovertigo]There are a giant amount of drummers in prog that are better than Neil Peart. Even when Peart was in his prime. Vinnie Colaiuta anybody? [/QUOTE Giant amount?? Realy?? Oh there must be something wrong on sites like "drummerworld" or "modern drummer". They never mentioned any giant amount as the most influental and creative drummer but Peart. |
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hukt on fonikzz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 140 |
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so YOU are telling ME what my opinion is... |
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there is no spoon...
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bartok ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Status: Offline Points: 79 |
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I don't know, "O Baterista" is a pretty jaw-dropping 8 minutes of drum solo and spectacle. Do the Cobhams, Colautas, and Collins of the world really have anything equivalent in their repertoires? Not really. The performance really speaks for itself - that's 1 guy creating all that sound - and there's a reason he's famous for it, because it's damn impressive. Compare that to the dual drumming of Bruford & Mastoletto or Collins & Thompson - it takes at least 2 guys to even come close to Peart's energy (the only exception might be Terry Bozzio, who is also pretty much a one man drumming machine). Sure, Colaiuta and Gadd and others may have more technique/fluidity/spontaneity in a jazz setting, but how would they hack it in Rush? Can they rock out for 2 1/2 hour shows? There's a big difference between drumming light adult-oriented pop for Sting or laid-back Zappa jazz rock and having to power-down on the drums for a rock gig. However talented those guys are, they quite simply do not have anything as intense as Peart.
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rushaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1141 |
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I get tired of threads like these. Some of us
think that Neil is absolutely the best drummer ever. Others
(specifically dallasbryan and some others who posted in this thread)
obviously don't for whatever reason. However, I think anyone with
an open mind and without bias would admit he is one of the best.
As for the next Neil Peart - probably Portnoy but I don't even think he comes close. Edited by rushaholic |
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Drew ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
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Peart- will always be the best in my eyes- seemed like he was the 1st to pull off many tracks on the set- everyone else that follows is simply a great replica- (if thats possible- ie, Portnoy) Edited by Drew |
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it goes to MR. Portnoy who else???????? |
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alan_pfeifer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 823 |
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I've yet to hear a song by them that the drums Don't work with the song......it's the Less is More style taken to the extreme, but hey, if you don't like it, whatever. |
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Shack Man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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Well let me explain, what you said "I think neil peart is overrated" is like saying "I think 2 plus 2 equals 34." You just thought wrong upon a fact. |
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hukt on fonikzz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 08 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 140 |
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fact? this is ridiculous, no where does it say that neil peart isnt overatted, is this written in some book or magazine ive never heard of? Did someone declare to the world that he is better than everyone? tell me, where is this "fact" you speak of? |
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GatesOfDelirium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 109 |
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I could go the rest of my life without hearing about Portnoy. A drummer's true merit is in live playing.
Anyways, I'd have to say Jon Theodore or Danny Carey are probably in line for progressive greatness, even if I don't like Tool that much. |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11985 |
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spectral ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 04 2005 Location: Vatican City State Status: Offline Points: 1422 |
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That is superb!!! |
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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Ben2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 870 |
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COOL! Where do you find all these great vids? ![]() |
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horza ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
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Neil Peart still best drummer as live in Rio testafies!!!
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Hierophant ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 11 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 651 |
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I have a question for all you portnoy fans...
what is it that he does that is so spectacular? I mean hes a good drummer but i'm perplexed as to why everyone thinks he's a god. I know hes got alot more going for him than the average drummer (songwriting, head of dt) but whats so mind blowing about his playing??? As a drummer - from a technical standpoint, his playing does absolutly nothing for me. |
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GreenB ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: February 15 2005 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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The reason why Neil Peart should be considered a legend in not because he is or was the best. That discussion is pointless. He should not be remembered as “the best” but as the drummer who revolutionized drum playing. ALL of the drummers mentioned in this thread deserve recognition because ALL of them are excellent. Some of them may be “better”. Whatever “better” means. Whether he is better, worse, overrated or underrated is pointless. Who do you think that has the ability to revolutionize again drum playing? …that is the question.
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moncholo ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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portnoy, because he is a mix between Peart and Lars Ulrich.......
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Shack Man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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It doesn't have to said, it lies within the music he plays; he deserves his credit. And oh yes, I stated that neil peart is better than everyone else... (sarcasm) He just isn't overrated, he is certainly not better than everyone else; how the hell would anyone know of the best drummer, its impossible. |
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