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krusty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 27 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1777 |
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I agree with most of this I have always thought of The Stranglers as a Doors influenced band I mean La Folie(?sp) isn't too punk either is it. Did you ever get "The Black Album" by the Dammed as well? Again not very punk.. even has violins on it ![]() Yeah, I was another subhumans fan ![]() What about Rudimentry Peni, Discharge, Vice Squad, Rubella Ballet, in fact alot of the No Future and Crass label acts... Plus I suppose you could include some Oi bands as well.. ![]() ![]() o the memories... |
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Bryan ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 01 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3013 |
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Wire and The Velvet Underground are amazing. I went with the VU due to their massive influence on all popular music.
On a sidenote, some people on this forum are way too close minded. As soon as they hear the word punk they have a knee-jerk reaction and think of all the stereotypes associated with the genre. Ironically, that's probably how most people view prog. |
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Hangedman ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261 |
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because some punk fans dont like prog? that seems needlessly petty to me. |
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Hangedman ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261 |
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I chose the stooges, talking heads came close as did a lot of others on the list. only pseudo punk? who cares?
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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Of the 70s symphonic bands, I like Camel and VDGG. Yes, it's not what I really like, but I can hear. But punk, of all types and styles, it's a passion for me. Just like Avant-garde prog, Brian Eno or Stoner Metal, and some others kind of music... The Fall is wonderful! ![]() |
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And above all, is punk
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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Indeed! Although they were only really punk in attitude - the music went way beyond punk; for example I'd hardly call "Golden Brown" or "Strange Little Girl" punk, and "Aural Sculptures" was a complete departure. Even "No More Heroes" wasn't pure punk - the structure and arrangement seems closer to the Doors than the Sex Pistols or the Vibrators. And calling the Ramones punk seems dubious, to say the least - and The Fall? Joy Division? That's like saying Stiff Little Fingers or XTC were punk I almost voted for the Buzzcocks as the epitome of punk, but ended up voting for The Damned. I love their cover of "Alone Again Or", and "Machine Gun Etiquette" is a blinding album. Their output is so incredibly varied that it's hard to consider them purely punk. Phantasmagoria has progressive leanings, and certainly a psychedelic 60s edge with tracks like "Grimly Fiendish". "Damned, Damned, Damned" is widely reported to be the very first British Punk album. The Vibrators debut was the third (where are they?) and The Sex Pistols were a lowly 3rd.
I'd also have included the Slits, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Nena Hagen, the Angelic Upstarts, Crass, Sham 69 and Killing Joke, with consideration given to the Clash and Subhumans (a grossly overlooked band, IMO, along with the later incarnations Culture Shock and Citizen Fish, who wrote some amazing music). And what about Plastic Bertrand or the Monks? ...and does anyone remember who did the song "Looking through Gary Gilmour's Eyes"? |
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Syzygy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Online Points: 7121 |
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Not sure I'd totally agree there (still got a soft spot for some 70s symphonic albums) but I'd take most of that list over most neo prog or prog metal any day. The Fall got my vote in the end. |
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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Well, I think that Post-punk it's the normal evolution of punk (just like Hardcore is). Anyway, I don't like labelling bands. So it's all punk, and Dead Kennedys is f**kin great! ![]() |
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horza ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
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where are the stranglers ?
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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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Hardcore's a development of punk; post punk's a reaction to it
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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... What? So Dead Kennedys ain't punk either, because they're Hardcore... ![]() |
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Zac M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 03 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Joy Division
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty |
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Hemispheres ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 22 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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i guess this list means all kinds of punk Proto Punk,Post Punk,Hardcore or whatever godamnitt how could i forget The Clash That was stupid sorry
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GoldenSpiral ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
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I voted Dead Kennedys, but where's Fugazi!!!!!
and the Clash!!! and btw, Wire are post-punk, not punk. |
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krusty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 27 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1777 |
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So many GREAT bands.... but a strange selection though.
Wouldn't really call Talking Heads, Velvet Underground, Television, Devo, Pere Ubu and a few others there punk. No Clash, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Crass, plus loads of others?? And even though I wouldn't call The Stooges punk that's who I've voted for. Iggy's the man....! I suppose you could call them proto punk along with the New York Dolls who are not there either. O no! here we go (neo-punk, post-punk, punk-collabrators, etc) ![]() |
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Fantômas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
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Today, Hüsker Dü. Punk to my ears is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than Symphonic Prog that's almost funny!
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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Television, Minutemen, Pere Ubu
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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One of millions of good reasons to hate punk and there is much more to it than that... |
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TheProgtologist ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
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I was never a huge punk fan but I love Bad Brains,very different from the usual punk bands
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Hemispheres ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 22 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 533 |
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u always seem to have clever intelligent thoughtful things to say miracle like punks sucks
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