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MikeEnRegalia
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Joined: April 22 2005
Location: Sweden
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Points: 20650
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 06:31 |
Moogtron III wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ using traditional song structures is not a criteria against prog. NOT using them is common in prog, but not necessary ... don't be so rigid! |
Well, I'm not so sure about that. It's of course the old question: "What is prog and what is not" and criteria are hard to find. Still... I get the feeling that any band / artist who makes music which I'd call prog, is from time to time abandoning the song structures, I mean, breaking rules...
For me, Sting really is a songwriter, not a prog musician. He restricts himself very much to the song structure. Yeah, he's the one who's rigid, not me .
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He uses unusual time signatures, serious Jazz influences ... I'm not saying that he's prog, but if there is something like "Progressive Pop" then String would be a perfect example. IMO Progressive Pop could even be defined as music which stays close to traditional principles of popular music, but combines that music with really progressive elements.
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Moogtron III
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
Status: Offline
Points: 10616
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 07:52 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ using traditional song structures is not a criteria against prog. NOT using them is common in prog, but not necessary ... don't be so rigid! |
Well, I'm not so sure about that. It's of course the old question: "What is prog and what is not" and criteria are hard to find. Still... I get the feeling that any band / artist who makes music which I'd call prog, is from time to time abandoning the song structures, I mean, breaking rules...
For me, Sting really is a songwriter, not a prog musician. He restricts himself very much to the song structure. Yeah, he's the one who's rigid, not me .
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He uses unusual time signatures, serious Jazz influences ... I'm not saying that he's prog, but if there is something like "Progressive Pop" then String would be a perfect example. IMO Progressive Pop could even be defined as music which stays close to traditional principles of popular music, but combines that music with really progressive elements.
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Progressive pop? Okay, I can agree with that .
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PROGMAN
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Joined: February 03 2004
Location: Wales
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Points: 2661
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 09:53 |
Police definetely has Elements of Prog, but not everything:
Here is what I consider Prog:
Invisible Sun, Sycronocity 2, Don't Stand So Close to Me, .
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NutterAlert
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Joined: June 07 2005
Location: In transition
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Points: 2807
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 10:18 |
I agree with Stonebeard the Great
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Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005
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salmacis
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Joined: April 10 2005
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:18 |
Can't believe this thread; Sting's music is typical of that horrid ultra sophisticated, 'coffee table' music from the 1980s, much like the stuff Steve Winwood and Phil Collins churned out....Prog??
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005
Location: Belgium
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:22 |
salmacis wrote:
Can't believe this thread; Sting's music is typical of that horrid ultra sophisticated, 'coffee table' music from the 1980s, much like the stuff Steve Winwood and Phil Collins churned out....Prog?? |
No, I disagree, and I don't understand that quite some people think that Sting didn't make any proper album after The Dream Of The Blue Turtles anymore. He's very eclectic, and though he sticks very much to the song format, he does some very interesting things, musically.
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