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    Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:12

Okay ive got some Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Pat Methany, Jaco Pastorious, Electric Miles and Return To Forever.

Give me some recommendations besides those

If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2006 at 22:30

Allan Holdsworth: Metal Fatigue, IOU, Secrets (for starters)

Jean-Luc Ponty: Enigmatic Oceans

Chad Wackerman: Forty Reasons

Gong: Gazuese, Espresso II

Soft Machine: Bundles

OHM: OHM, Amino Acid Flashback

Billy Cobham: Spectrum

Tony Williams Lifetime: Believe It

McGill Manring Stevens: Controlled by Radar

Mastermind: Excelsior!

Jonas Hellborg, Shawn Lane (RIP), Jeff Sipe: Time is the Key, Personnae

Jonas Hellborg, Michael Shrieve, Buckethead: Octave of the Holy Innocents

Jonas Hellborg, Kofi Baker, Shawn Lane: Abstract Logic

 

 

 

There is plenty more.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 01:03

Allan Holdsworth - The Sixteen Men of Tain

Brand X - Unorthodox Behavior

Niacin - Time Crunch

Attention Deficit - The Idiot King

Gong - Gazeuse!, Expresso II

I know you mentioned Pat, but he has a huge discography, I will put an emphasis on getting The Way Up if you haven't yet.

There's a lot of metallic stuff on this record, but you ought to check out Planet X - MoonBabies

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 01:12
Neil Ardley-Kaleidoscope of Dreams (my favoirte fusion album)

Pierre Moerlen's Gong-Time is the Key

Gong-Gazeuse, Expresso II

Nucleus-Elastic Rock, We'll Talk About It Later, Solar Plexus

Soft Machine-4,6

Lol Coxhill-The Ear of the Beholder, The Story So Far....Oh Really (w/ Stephen Miller)

Elton Dean Quintet-Boundaries (really more avant-jazz though, as is some of Lol Coxhill's)

Nicra-Listen/Hear (w/ Keith Tippett, more avant...again, just Trombones and Piano, interesting)

Hmmm, I'm sure there are others, I'll let you know if I think of any more.

EDIT: Oh yes, how could I forget Brand X, my favorites are the first two albums.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 01:12

My suggestions:

  • BILL BRUFORD's jazz works after late 90's (EARTHWORKS, B.L.U.E., with GOMEZ and TOWNER)
  • TASAVALLAN PRESIDENTTI (Jazzy rock)
  • Early WIGWAM (Winwood influences)
  • RALPH TOWNER (Jazz with classical guitar)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 05:53
Originally posted by walrus333 walrus333 wrote:

Okay ive got some Weather Report, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Pat Methany, Jaco Pastorious, Electric Miles and Return To Forever.

Give me some recommendations besides those

 

It seems that the majority of bands listed here played jazz rock fusion. SO do you want to stick with jazz rock fusion, and/or broaden out into the other 80% of fusion?

 

Whilst you ponder, and sticking to jazz rock without repeating the excellent suggestions gone before, try:

From the 70's

First three Brand X albums

Isotope's first two albums

Tasavallan Presidentti: Lambertland (Love)

(and for obscurity) 64 Spoons: Landing On A Rat Column (members of which ended up playing in Level 42, 21st Century Schizoid band, Network)

More recently:

Terj Rypdal: Singles Collection, Chaser (both ECM)

David Torn: Cloud Around Mercury (ECM)

Wayne Krantz: Two Drink Minimum (Enja)

Nicholas D'Amato's Royal Society (feat. W. Krantz): Nullius In Verba (Buckyball)

Tribal Tech: Rocket Science (ESC)

Conrad Schrenk's Extravaganza: Save The Robots (reckoned by some to be the one of the best JR releases in the 90's)

Hellberg/Buckethead/Shrieve: Octave Of The Holy Innocents (DEM Records  - get the original 1993 release, not the 2004 remix on Bardo)

Coryell/Smith/Coster (Tone Center) - in fact most albums with Steve Smith's name on and released by Tone Center Records

McHacek: Featuring Ourselves (Austra Mechnaica)

That has spent a couple hundred Euros/dollars

And then we can go on to:

Jazz funk (Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams, Stanley Clarke, even Miles Davis, recent Lenny White, Urbanator, etc.)

Brass rock (If, BST, Chase, early Chicago, Heaven, Satisfaction, Ides Of March, Glueleg, Tower Of Power, Cold Blood)

nu.fusion ( Bugge Wesseltoft, Nils Petter Molvaer, No Jazz, etc.)

nu.jazz (Brad Mehldau, Estbjorn Svenssen Trio, The Bad Plus, Jaga Jazzist, The Shining)

Canterbury jazz fusion (Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Hatfield & The North, Gilgamesh, etc.)

Arabic fusion

Indo jazz fusion (Shaki, a number of Jonas Hellborg projects)

Flamenco jazz rock (Al Dimeola/McLaughlin/Paco DeLuca, etc. joint projects - see the latest version is just out on DVD with Coryell/DiMeola/Lagrene)

Far eastern jazz rock (e.g. Kazumi Watanabe, Nguyen Le)

Prog Fusion (LTE, BLS,  usually Dream Theater or King Crimson spin offs)

Big Band fusion: Don Ellis Orchestra (Fillmore), Loose Tubes, Jaga Jazzist (again), some of the 80's and 90's Mike Gibbs' albums.

RIO (Henry Cow, etc.)

Tribute fusion: Mahavishnu Project, Jazz Is Dead, Yo Miles

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:14

Jazz Rock Fusion:

Mahavishnu Orchestra-- Practically all albums

Brand X-- Unorthodox Behaviour

Wigwam-- Nuclear Nightclub

Bozzio Levin Stevens--

Steve Hillage-- Fish Rising

Area, Crac, Planet X, Return To Forever...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:47

I've made a list on RYM: 10 essential  fusionrecords!

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/fabsolutely/introduction_to_fu sion_jazzrock

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 08:29
Originally posted by thefalafelking thefalafelking wrote:

I've made a list on RYM: 10 essential  fusionrecords!

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/fabsolutely/introduction_to_fu sion_jazzrock

 

tflfkng

 

Interesting. Jon Newey editor Jazzwise magazine, did a guest article in Mojo Collectibles 3 or so years ago, and his  essentials included (but remember this was aimed at those collecting records):

 

MO's Birds Of Fire

Davis's Bitches Brew

Machine's Third

Cobham's Spectrum

RTF's Hymn To The 7th Galaxy

Weather Report: Black Market

Lifetime - either Emergency or Turn It Over (without the magazine nearby I'm relying on a faulty memory)

Early  90's recording by Tribal Tech and Scott Henderson - neither of which I recall the title.

In a poll I ran across a couple of specialist sites 10 years ago, Birds Of Fire, Hymn Of The 7th Galaxy and Bruford's Feels Good To me, were the top 3. As a rough rule it appears prog mainstreamers prefer RTF's Romantic Warrior, whilel jazz rockers prefer RTF's Hymn???!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 08:41

Falafelking

 

Thanks for reminding me I posted a list of jazz rock albums elsewhere, several years ago:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse /-/RPLR4BTT3SJC/026-9226558-7204446

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  • SOFT MACHINE - Third; Fourth; Fifth; Six; Seven; Bundles;
  • NUCLEUS - Elastic Rock; We'll Talk About It Later; Solar Plexus; Belladonna; Labyrinth; Under The Sun; In Flagrante Delicto;
  • AFFINITY - Affinity (jazz prog) 1970
  • LINDA HOYLE - Pieces Of Me  1971 (with Chris Spedding and 4 musicians from NUCLEUS)
  • BEN - Ben (1971) - jazz rock band with SOFT MACHINE and NUCLEUS influences
  • CATAPILLA - Catapilla (1971) - British jazz rock/prog band
  • THE RUNNING MAN - The Running Man (1972) - jazz-rock prog
  • SKIN ALLEY - Skin Alley (1969) - To Pagham And Beyond (1970) - jazz-rock prog
  • ZAO - Shekina (1975) ( MAGMA, NUCLEUS and SOFT MACHINE influences)
  • JEFF BECK GROUP - Blow By Blow (1975)
  • COLOSSEUM - Those Who Are About To Die Salute You (1969)
  • KEEF HARTLEY BAND - The Battle Of North West Six (1970)
  • JOHN MAYALL - Jazz Blues Fusion (1972)
  • ROY BUCHANAN - Loading Zone (1977)
  • HARVEY MANDEL - Baby Batter (1971) - The Snake (1972)
  • CURTIS MAYFIELD - Superfly (1972) - jazz-funk
  • SLY & THE FAMILY STONE - Dance To The Music (1968) - Life (1968) - Stand! (1969) - jazz funky
  • CENTIPEDE - Septober Energy (1971)
  • DIXIE DREGS - Free Fall (1977) - What If (1978) - Night of the living Dregs (1979)
  • PASSPORT - Second Pasport (1972) - Hand Made (1973) - Looking Thru (1974) - Doldinger Jubilee Concert (1974) - Cross-Collateral (1975) - Infinity Machine (1976)
  • SOLUTION - Divergence (1973) - Cordon Bleu (1975) - Fully Interlocking (1977)
  • VERTU' - Vertł (1999)
  • LEE RITENOUR LARRY CARLTON - Larry & Lee (1995)
  • HERBIE HANCOCK - The best of Herbie Hancock - The hits!
  • TOM SCOTT - New York Connection (1975)
  • ERIC GALE - Ginseng Woman (1977) - Multiplication (1978)
  • JOHN McLAUGHLIN WITH THE ONE TRUTH BAND - Electric Dreams (1978)
  • JOHN McLAUGHLIN - Extrapolation
  • JEREMY STEIG - Firefly (1977)
  • LARRY CORYELL - Spaces (1969)
  • THE ELEVENTH HOUSE WITH LARRY CORYELL - s/t (1974)
  • STANLEY CLARKE - s/t (1974) - live 1976/77
  • BILLY COBHAM - Spectrum (1973) - Magic (1977) - Semplicity of expression depth of thought (1978)
  • JING CHI ( VINNIE COLAIUTA ROBBEN FORD JIMMY HASLIP ) (2001)
  • DAVID EARLE JOHNSON with JAN HAMMER - Time is Free (
  • JEFF BECK WITH THE JAN HAMMER GROUP LIVE (1977)
  • DEODATO - Prelude (1972)
  • GABOR SZABO - MACHO (1975)
  • SADAO WATANABE - Round Trip
  • HUBERT LAWS - The Rite Of Spring (1971)
  • YELLOWJACKETS - Dreamland (1995)
  • FUSE ON ( with STANLEY CLARKE - LARRY CORYELL - PAULINHO DA COSTA - JOE FARREL - JOHN McLAUGHLIN - RONNIE FOSTER - NOUGU - LENNY WHITE - TONY WILLIAMS) 1980
  • FREDDIE HUBBARD - Red Clay (1971)
  • STEPS AHEAD - Magnetic (1986)
  • JENS JOHANSSON - Fission  - 1997
  • SPYRO GYRA - Alternative Currents - 1985
  • SPYRO GYRA - Incognito - 1982
  • SPYRO GYRA - Road Scholars - 1997
  • SPYRO GYRA - Access All Areas - 1984
  • SPYRO GYRA - Carnaval - 1980
  • SPYRO GYRA - Breakout - 1986
  • SPYRO GYRA - Spyro Gyra - 1977
  • SPYRO GYRA - Morning Dance - 1979
  • SPYRO GYRA - Stories Without Words - 1987

Italians...

  • ARTI + MESTIERI - Tilt (1974) - Giro di valzer per domani (1975)
  • AREA - their first 5 albums
  • AGORA' - Live in Montreaux (1975) - Agorą 2 (1976)
  • VENEGONI E CO. - Rumore Rosso (1977) - Sarbanda (1979)
  • PERIGEO - their first 6 works
  • DEDALUS - Dedalus (1973)
  • IL BARICENTRO - Sconcerto (1976) - Trusciant (1978)
  • BEIA COME ABA - Beia Come Aba - 1979
  • CINCINNATO - Cincinnato - 1974
  • COMBO JAZZ - No Speed (1979)
  • DUELLO MADRE - Duello Madre (1973)
  • ESAGONO - Vicolo - 1976
  • ETNA - Etna - 1875
  • FREE WAVE SYSTEM - Nonostante Tutto - 1981
  • GIALMA 3 - Rain's Dream (1976) - L'Isola del Tonal (1979)
  • KALEIDON - Free Love - 1973
  • L' ALTRO LATO - L'Altro Lato - 1985
  • NOVA - Blink (1976)
  • PREGHIERA DI SASSO/DIAPASON - Preghiera di sasso - 1975

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 10:19

Billy Cobham - Spectrum (essential)

Colosseum II - Electric Savage

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 12:44
Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

 

  • BILLY COBHAM - Spectrum (1973) - Magic (1977) - Simplicity of expression depth of thought (1978)

 

 

  • SPYRO GYRA

 

Andrew, do you really think Magic and Simplicity etc. are comparable with Spectrum - give me Total Eclipse and the other couple recordings by Cobham with the Brecker brothers (now reissued on Atlantic Jazz Remasters). Personally, having bought the original vinyl versions,  I found Magic and Simplicity  typical of the late 70's, when Columbia & Epic Records had tied many of the great jazz rock artists of the early 70's up in contracts and seemingly were demanding more "commercial" album i.e. the advent of smooth jazz/fusak/fm radio friendly  jazz - a lot of  it very tired and forgettable jazz rock, hence well-underplayed in my houshold. George Duke output went the same way.  And this too was the period Narada Michael Walden became a  successful soul singer and many of us realised Stanley Clarke wouldn't become one. 

 

Note: Spyro Gyra - not to be confused with the Canterbury folk rock band with just about the same name.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 14:47
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

 

  • BILLY COBHAM - Spectrum (1973) - Magic (1977) - Simplicity of expression depth of thought (1978)

 

 

  • SPYRO GYRA

 

Andrew, do you really think Magic and Simplicity etc. are comparable with Spectrum - give me Total Eclipse and the other couple recordings by Cobham with the Brecker brothers (now reissued on Atlantic Jazz Remasters). Personally, having bought the original vinyl versions,  I found Magic and Simplicity  typical of the late 70's, when Columbia & Epic Records had tied many of the great jazz rock artists of the early 70's up in contracts and seemingly were demanding more "commercial" album i.e. the advent of smooth jazz/fusak/fm radio friendly  jazz - a lot of  it very tired and forgettable jazz rock, hence well-underplayed in my houshold. George Duke output went the same way.  And this too was the period Narada Michael Walden became a  successful soul singer and many of us realised Stanley Clarke wouldn't become one. 

 

Note: Spyro Gyra - not to be confused with the Canterbury folk rock band with just about the same name.

NO!!!

"Spectrum" is far superior than the other two albums above mentioned.

SPYRO GYRA : jazz rock band from the late seventies, eighties and nineties.

SPYROGYRA : '70s folk rock, folk prog band from Canterbury.

Don't worry, i know both bnds.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:21
Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

SPYRO GYRA : jazz rock band from the late seventies, eighties and nineties.

SPYROGYRA : '70s folk rock, folk prog band from Canterbury.

Don't worry, i know both bnds.

If you know both bands you should know that the folk band is SPIROGYRA and not SPYROGYRA.

Two other exciting fusion albums (nobody mentioned them I think) :

BORNE : 'Exprime la naranja' (1979)

 

 

Alas : 'Pinta tu aldea' (1983, with PEDRO AZNAR [Pat Metheny Group] on synths)

"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:36
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Davis's Bitches Brew



Though it's really one of the only jazz fusion albums I have, it's good.  As such, I recommend it also.

Oh yeah, I also borrowed Bruford's Earthworks from the library.  I liked it.  It Needn't End in Tears has beautiful sax in it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 19:38
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by ANDREW ANDREW wrote:

SPYRO GYRA : jazz rock band from the late seventies, eighties and nineties.

SPYROGYRA : '70s folk rock, folk prog band from Canterbury.

Don't worry, i know both bnds.

If you know both bands you should know that the folk band is SPIROGYRA and not SPYROGYRA.

Two other exciting fusion albums (nobody mentioned them I think) :

BORNE : 'Exprime la naranja' (1979)

 

 

Alas : 'Pinta tu aldea' (1983, with PEDRO AZNAR [Pat Metheny Group] on synths)

Yes, sorry.

I pressed the wrong button.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2006 at 22:19
  • Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour, Moroccan Roll, Livestock
  • Passport - Handmade, Looking Thru
  • Soft Machine - Third, Fourth, Seven, Bundles
  • Gong - Shamal, Gazeuse!
  • Dixie Dregs - What If
RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:56
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

BORNE : 'Exprime la naranja' (1979)


Yeah! good Spanish band!

I Say check out AQUILA. Aquila (1970)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:59

Oh man! how can i forgot:

Association PC. Erna Morena and Mama Kuku

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