Prog’s appeal to women

This is developing into a very interesting thread, from a biological/sociological/psychological point of view... quite an eye-opener (well, not really  ) to read some of the 'male' opinions about the female gender of homo sapiens sapiens over here - and I have to conclude they're not all that logical, while men always consider themselves as the more logical thinkers...???

For instance, I find it very strange to read that nearly all the guys over here want their ladies to be PRETTY, but at the same time they're complaining about women taking too much effort in their make-up, shopping, etc.! Sadly enough, a lot of us ladies do need a little touching-up now and then in order to look in any way 'pretty'... a fact of reality, I'm afraid. Quite some double standard, not?

Ah, I should have known I was part of the 'nerd'-category when I scored my first A+ in maths  - no wonder I ended up as a ProgLover! Oh, and I like PORN too, hehe...

I really look forward to further reading in this thread!

...I quite agree with someone up saying that men have a need to escape from real life, while women are more at ease in the material reality and are more ressistant to physical and moral pain.

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Yes, but last suicide statistics go against this theory in a way:

-Women tend to make more suicidal attemps by ingesting medecines or cutting its veins.

-Men tend to kill themselves (so real suicide) using guns or hanging...

akin wrote: It is cultural. Rock in general is associated with men,  other genres like romantic pop, dance, latin rhythms are associated to women. So a 6, 7 year old boy hears that men like rock, listening to rock is cool and he starts listening rock, even if he doesn't enjoy it.  And so do little girls with fashion music. Nowadays we see lots of girls wearing punk/hardcore/metal t-shirts and listening to those things because it became fashion. It is cool to a girl like rock and even be in a rock band(like Avril Lavigne, Evanescence , White Stripes and Nightwish). Psychedelic was common for women back in 60's. All those hippie girls with flowers in their heads and multi-colored dresses. It was a fashion. I think progressive rock never became a great fashion between women, so I think that is the only reason to this. I am sure about this because I have shown progressive rock to many girls and all of them liked. Of course I didn't start with Close to the Edge or 21th Century Schizoid Man (Van der Graaf is forbidden to start, but for my surprise, I showed first a Tangerine Dream's song to a distant relative and she liked!), but once they get some shorter songs, they tend to accept the longer and most complex ones. It is all fashion.

I agree. It's a cultural thing that society influences.

Antennas wrote: For instance, I find it very strange to read that nearly all the guys over here want their ladies to be PRETTY, but at the same time they're complaining about women taking too much effort in their make-up, shopping, etc.! Sadly enough, a lot of us ladies do need a little touching-up now and then in order to look in any way 'pretty'... a fact of reality, I'm afraid. Quite some double standard, not?

What's lack to today's girl is: natural. It hurts me to see girls destroying their nice little breasts to replace it by ridiculous plastic balls. For what? To be like a fashion standard created by medias and to please men. That's sad.

@shyman, oliverstoned -

I very much agree with the both of you!

Girls who only think about their looks are a disgrace to my gender (or perhaps they're prettier than me and I'm just jealous?  - at least they're stupid, as all of us get older, and that usually isn't an approvement in one's looks) and let's not even go to the subject of plastic surgery...

Strange to see so many men actually liking "Silicon Valley"- models and actresses. Not YOU, of course

 

shyman wrote: Antennas wrote: For instance, I find it very strange to read that nearly all the guys over here want their ladies to be PRETTY, but at the same time they're complaining about women taking too much effort in their make-up, shopping, etc.! Sadly enough, a lot of us ladies do need a little touching-up now and then in order to look in any way 'pretty'... a fact of reality, I'm afraid. Quite some double standard, not? I actually don't complain about that (it is ilogical to do so). The moment I start complaining is when I find a girl who only thinks about that, and they exist.

Actually one of the bigest turn off for me is the woman putting on tons of make-up so much so that they look like Sioux or Apaches on the war path - chasing  for men that is !!!

It actually scares me away - looks like they are so desperate to get a man to talk to them!! Worse part for them IMHO is how to face the guy the morning after at time to get out of bed - hate to think about the state of the pillow case too

best bet is be yourself!!

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Sean Trane wrote: shyman wrote: Antennas wrote: For instance, I find it very strange to read that nearly all the guys over here want their ladies to be PRETTY, but at the same time they're complaining about women taking too much effort in their make-up, shopping, etc.! Sadly enough, a lot of us ladies do need a little touching-up now and then in order to look in any way 'pretty'... a fact of reality, I'm afraid. Quite some double standard, not? I actually don't complain about that (it is ilogical to do so). The moment I start complaining is when I find a girl who only thinks about that, and they exist. Actually one of the bigest turn off for me is the woman putting on tons of make-up so much so that they look like Sioux or Apaches on the war path - chasing  for men that is !!!

Some make-up is nice, like the Ancient Egyptian style make-up for the eyes.

Black and white, sorry...
but guenuine!