Zappa, Does humor belong in music ??? |
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 20:47 | |||
Nope, Cruising With Ruben & The Jets |
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White Feather
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 21:22 | |||
I just wonder "if" the level of awareness Zappa seems to behold regarding his satirical evaluations was a little waisted , what I`m saying is the brand of humor Zappa displays is very interesting as well as being pretty funny , but the problem is things are only hilarious the first few times you hear them (Cheech and Chong for example) I believe in the interests of longevity in the sense of quality control Zappa would have been better using that "gift" of humor Zappa clearly had in a similar way that Peter Gabriel or Ian Anderson used theirs, perhaps try and incorporate into the flow of the music a little better and not "risk" some people thinking "what have we got here ... Cheech and Chongs, Earache my Eye ?" . Then again maybe I just don`t get it
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 21:25 | |||
Yep. And that one is a decent record. Lumpy Gravy, on the other hand, is arguably his most avant-garde piece next to Civilization Phaze III. |
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Empathy
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 21:54 | |||
I totally concur. I have to skip "Luigi and the Wise Guys" on Man from Utopia everytime I listen to it. Something about that song actually makes me want to hit something |
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pero
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 07:52 | |||
Well said! What would he say for Baby snakes DVD? |
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Chicapah
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 09:42 | |||
Hey, how long do I have to bust these rocks out here before I've worked off my 5 demerits? Sheesh! |
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Empathy
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 09:56 | |||
Working off 5 Prog demerits takes approximately the length of 4 plays of Tales from Topographic Oceans.
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 09:58 | |||
I think that not only should humor be banned from music, but from all
areas of life as well...especially from art, and definitely from this website. OK, people, no more jokes on this forum! Progressive music should only be appreciated by bespectacled, bearded intellectuals in turtle necks, who certainly have more important matters on their minds than "Titties 'n Beer". Edited by RoyalJelly |
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Chicapah
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:22 | |||
Does that mean you're including the first half of The Ancient? That would be cruel and unusual punishment that goes beyond the boundaries of all that is decent! For God's sake, have mercy on my poor soul. |
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Empathy
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:32 | |||
Keep it up, and you'll force me to escalate to the extended Krautrock jams. |
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Chicapah
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:37 | |||
UNCLE! |
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Paul K.
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 04:45 | |||
well, Zappa himself shows that it does :) I like his humour, now and then it may be really weird but generally speaking I've always enjoyed his jokes. BTW, don't forget that he was banned in SNL for his strange sense of humour :) I wish I had seen that particular episode. Probably, the reason for people's dislikeness of humour in music here is that prog doesn't have humour AT ALL. It's very serious genre. As a matter of fact I also think that humour is inappropriate for prog, but Zappa is Zappa, he is genius and he could everything :) |
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Ultaigh
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 04:49 | |||
I believe that humor does believe in music...though, I don't really
care for or "get" Zappa's humor I still think he was a great musician.
His humor and style is growing on me, though. |
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fairyliar
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 04:55 | |||
Zappa's DVD "Does Humor Belong In music" was the first thing I heard from him... and I immediately liked it a lot! I like the lyrics, it's too extreme to not be funny! And the music is great great great! Of course humor belongs in music, just see Queen in their early days, ELP...very salacious sometimes! |
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MorgothSunshine
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 05:14 | |||
Yes humor belongs in music!!! I really love Bob Dylan imitation on "Flakes" |
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Prog-jester
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 06:20 | |||
Humor?Why not?
Just to mention "Paris is Burning" by PALLAS(oops...it wasn't fun just few days ago ),"Harold the Burrel" by GENESIS and funny BEATLES and QUEEN songs |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 06:43 | |||
Much of Zappa's humour (especially the later albums/tours) will date and mean little to generations to come, because as far as Zappa's humour is concerned, he was first and foremost a satirist; the cultural/political/religious icons he savaged with such glee become 'old news' very quickly these days - how many people understand the references to Jesse Jackson in "Rhymin' Man" for example? Sometimes you just have to go along for the ride with Zappa's humour and enjoy the jokes/comments/Woody Woodpecker sound-effects (whilst not necessarily understanding them) - Yes, humour does belong in music, but that cannot detract from the huge body of "serious" work the man left us in the far too short 51 years he was with us. |
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fairyliar
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 21 2005 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 107 |
Posted: March 27 2006 at 08:25 | |||
Maybe his boyfriend should be thanking him For the way he makes it sprinke into drops of golden rain.... LMAO has anybody here listened to something funnier than "He's so gay"???? And watch it live!!!! It's just fascinating! I can't remember the name of the guy at the synths who also played saxo but he is a genius!!! Never seen someone acting so well while singing and playing! (and moreover he looked really queer lol) |
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