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chamberry
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Posted: May 18 2006 at 21:34 |
I haven't bought any album or rarely bought albums from the late year because of that. So I would guess 78 - 79 also
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 02:20 |
in the dark years of 78-80s Rush was really the only group to keep the torch alight.
Mind you 78 had Magma's Attahk, not a bad album, but then they broke up. So Rush was the only hope until Neo Prog.
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lastdodobird
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 07:11 |
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
in the dark years of 78-80s Rush was really the only group to keep the torch alight.
Mind you 78 had Magma's Attahk, not a bad album, but then they broke up. So Rush was the only hope until Neo Prog. |
I noticed that prog didn't really die out. It just went sputtering, but bands like Rush and Marillion somewhat kept the genre alive in the 80s Rush, I think, was the leading prog band for that period in the late 70s until the early 80s. The only year they didn't have a release was 1979. Then where Rush weakened, Marillion took up the challenge as a neo-prog band. I figure that the "dark ages" for prog were probably that period from the late 80s to the early 90s, then it got revived by bands like Tool and Dream Theater to be what it is now. Haha. I don't know why I pointed that out, and I don't know if it's even accurate to say that, but it's just an observation. It's just a little too obvious to add any year after 1979, since prog didn't figure too prominently in the music world after that... So I just took these years into consideration... like "the worst of the best years for prog rock"
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:20 |
THE YEARS BETWEEN 1977 and 1989
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:22 |
MANDRAKEROOT wrote:
THE YEARS BETWEEN 1977 and 1989 |
From PUNK REVOLUTION and 1st DREAM THEATRE ALBUM!!!
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kebjourman
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 16:19 |
imoeng wrote:
lol as the time goes into the 80s, everything is dead. |
amen
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esha9751
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 18:26 |
Abstrakt wrote:
1977 was dry... |
I think that would depend on taste, especially the sound. The sound is changing at that time for sure, but to my taste it's for the better.
Prog for me would not be the same without (by PA top 100 rating):
GENESIS Wind And Wuthering (A fine non-Gabriel album)
YES Going for the One (for me the best Yes album!)
JETHRO TULL Songs From The Wood (for me the best JT album!)
SHAKTI with John McLaughlin Natural Elements (5/5 for me)
and I think it was a fine year for jazz rock fusion:
AL DI MEOLA Elegant Gypsy
BRAND X Livestock
Morrocan Roll
Weather Report: Heavy Weather
among others
And at the top of course you'd find
PINK FLOYD Animals
RUSH A Farewell to Kings
and
Genesis and Gentle Giant with live albums...
Edited by esha9751 - May 20 2006 at 12:29
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esha9751
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 18:35 |
eddietrooper wrote:
1978. Punk was completely stablished. Genesis and Gentle Giant had become pop artists |
The times were definitely a-changing, but the year brought us:
UK U.K.
BILL BRUFORD One of a Kind
MIKE OLDFIELD Incantations
BRAND X Masques
So the year wasn't quite wasted the way '79 was...
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esha9751
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 18:39 |
lastdodobird wrote:
Well, pretty much everyone thinks that 1973 was the best year for prog rock, now what's the worst? And why?
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If you look at the top of TOP-100 (or rather at the TOP-10 where Fragile used to belong so I count it in here) 1972 seems the better year...
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YYZed
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 20:02 |
79 = closest to the 80's = worst prog year
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lastdodobird
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 11:18 |
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esha9751
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 12:23 |
lastdodobird wrote:
esha9751 wrote:
lastdodobird wrote:
Well, pretty much everyone thinks that 1973 was the best year for prog rock, now what's the worst? And why?
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If you look at the top of TOP-100 (or rather at the TOP-10 where Fragile used to belong so I count it in here) 1972 seems the better year... | Oh okay. I was just basing that on the poll I made asking which the best year for prog rock was, and 1973 was the runaway winner  |
OK didn't know that one. Still a newbie in the forum though I've been using this site (reviews&ratings) intensively for 3 or 4 months now!
So that would be the "feeling" about it (1973) and 1972 represents the factual scoring of records. 1972 has got ten albums in TOP-100 versus 1973's nine - one of 1972's is Deep Purple - hmm so we take that one out.
But even without DP the remaining 9 albums score an average of 10% better in regard to their placing on the list.
 Esben
Edited by esha9751 - May 20 2006 at 12:28
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esha9751
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 12:45 |
lastdodobird wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
in the dark years of 78-80s Rush was really the only group to keep the torch alight.
Mind you 78 had Magma's Attahk, not a bad album, but then they broke up. So Rush was the only hope until Neo Prog. | I noticed that prog didn't really die out. It just went sputtering, but bands like Rush and Marillion somewhat kept the genre alive in the 80s. Rush, I think, was the leading prog band for that period in the late 70s until the early 80s. The only year they didn't have a release was 1979. Then where Rush weakened, Marillion took up the challenge as a neo-prog band.I figure that the "dark ages" for prog were probably that period from the late 80s to the early 90s, then it got revived by bands like Tool and Dream Theater to be what it is now.Haha. I don't know why I pointed that out, and I don't know if it's even accurate to say that, but it's just an observation.It's just a little too obvious to add any year after 1979, since prog didn't figure too prominently in the music world after that... So I just took these years into consideration... like "the worst of the best years for prog rock"  |
If you study TOP-100 (it's not the Bible, I know  ) that picture is confirmed - regarding Rush and Marillion. BTW I got my idea supported: that the great time of prog were the years 1970-77
'69 has got 2 albums in the TOP-100
'70-77 has got around 60 albums
(1970 5 all in lower half
1971 8
1972 10 (Incl. Deep Purple)
1973 9
1974 9 (Incl. Queen)
1975 6
1976 5
1977 7)
'78-79 has got 3(!)
'80-89 has got 5 (neo-prog)
90-99 has got 10 (prog metal and some neo-prog and Porcupine Tree)
2000-2005 'round 20 (prog metal even more dominating)
So if that's the true tendency (exponential growth!?) prog is really on its way back!
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ANDREW
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:00 |
Bluesaga wrote:
Definitely either 1978 or 79.
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The Miracle
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:20 |
Arsillus wrote:
1979- Because the Wall was released. Terrible album.... |
I absolutely agree. The Wall is a disaster
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lastdodobird
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:52 |
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ANDREW
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 14:17 |
"The Wall" is a MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 18:13 |
ANDREW wrote:
"The Wall" is a MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
OnlyIf you are a miserable, confused 15 year old  .
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Alagithil
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 22:55 |
Prolly 79. The Wall issue aside, the only great studio album released was Spectral Mornings. And Joe's Garage?
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Life is like an avantgarde play because tuna.
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The Miracle
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 23:21 |
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