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The T 
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 Topic: Enchant... Prog Metal???
Posted: February 23 2007 at 13:41 |
I wrote a review for an Enchant album looong ago... But I didn't realize it then... Today I did: Enchant... Prog-Metal????  What has metal have todo with the San Francisco band? Kansas is art-rock, Cryptic Vision is art rock, Magellan is art-rock, Explorer's Club is in art-rock... all of them heavier than Enchant, but with at least some similarities (the Kansas inspiration mostly)...but Enchant is Prog-Metal?? I think they should be moved....
Edited by The T - February 23 2007 at 13:41
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progismylife
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 13:42 |
I vote the last option cause frankly I have never heard of the band and I like adding useless comments to polls I know nothing about! 
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Raff
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 13:45 |
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Enchant were moved to Prog Metal from Art Rock with the agreement of the Prog-Metal team. If they want to have them moved back to AR, they can ask me or other ART members. Otherwise, they will stay where they are.
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eugene
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 13:46 |
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I miss the option "Yes. Prog-related" or "No. Prog-related" here
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eugene
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 13:53 |
Seriously, they are not metal to me, but I still do not like the band.
On the other hand LTE are nothing to do with metal to me, and I like the band a lot!
Enchant sound to me like lower quality mixture of Rush with Kansas.
Edited by eugene - February 23 2007 at 13:56
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The T
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 14:03 |
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WaywardSon
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 14:14 |
No, I don´t think they are prog metal at all.
The problem is that their record company calls them Progressive/Rock/Metal.
Great band BTW!!
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Melomaniac
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 14:28 |
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Definitely not prog metal. They have their harder moments, but they never really dabbled in metal territory. I have more than a few albums by Enchant and, in my humble opinion, art rock is their rightful place. You just have to know their main influences (Kansas, Rush, Saga) to know they fit in art rock.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 15:07 |
I have to say no,i almost voted in the last category, until i remembered what a DREAM THEATER freak you are. 
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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johnobvious
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 15:13 |
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That guitar sound is not metal. Isn't the guitar sound how you define if a band is metal or not?
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Barla
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 15:22 |
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A big NO!! They have some heavy riffs, but that's not enough to categorise tham as Prog Metal. They're a kind of Art Rock, with Neo proggish sound, IMO. And they should be in Art Rock, definitely.
BTW, what are Magellan doing in Art Rock?? They're modern Symphonic Prog!! Anyone agrees?
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The T
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 15:41 |
 Barla wrote:
A big NO!! They have some heavy riffs, but that's not enough to categorise tham as Prog Metal. They're a kind of Art Rock, with Neo proggish sound, IMO. And they should be in Art Rock, definitely.
BTW, what are Magellan doing in Art Rock?? They're modern Symphonic Prog!! Anyone agrees?
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I don't know.... I think they have metal elements, symphonic elements.... Impending Ascencion was symph-ish, but the two latest ones (Impossible F and SFAM) are more on the metal side.... I don't know....
Explorer's Club, on the other hand, is metal+sympho....
I don't know
But please, check this poll, admin team... I suggest Enchant to be sent to Art Rock, and The T to be sent to The Prog Hall of Fame... 
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Melomaniac
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 15:45 |
The T wrote:
[QUOTE=Barla] The T to be sent to The Prog Hall of Fame... |
... in the most humble member category !
I agree too, Enchant definitely belong in Art Rock.
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 16:21 |
Later Enchant is prog-metal to me, Im not too familiar with their earlier stuff.
Magellan was in the Prog-metal category in the beginning here, but was later moved to Art Rock. Im not sure which catergory they really belong in though, all their albums have strong elements of Neo-Prog, Symph and Prog-Metal at the same time.
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cucacola54
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 17:26 |
yeah, i think they´r not Prog-Metal.
Art Rock suits better to them IMHO
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 19:12 |
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Enchant fall in between art rock and prog metal . If I was looking for an art rock band and I read about Enchant being art rock on this site I`d probably think that Enchant get just a bit too heavy to be Art rock, because they probably are. If I was looking for a prog metal band here I`d be thinking Enchant are not typical prog metal, and perhaps not heavy enough !
I believe there is a time when a combined style is needed Enchant are "art prog metal"
something ? many prog bands especially from the Magna Carta label fall into this category.
Edited by Masque - February 23 2007 at 23:31
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 20:31 |
Like Masque stated,Enchant are one of those bands that are right on that line where you have trouble figuring out which single genre they should be placed in.In my opinion they are a little too heavy for Art Rock,and I have no problem with them being in prog metal.
Magellan is another band that combine quite a few different styles/sounds into their music and it makes them hard to pin down.They definitely aren't prog metal,and I am the one who suggested they be moved.
Edited by TheProgtologist - February 23 2007 at 20:33
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 20:51 |
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I must admit i haven't heard their last two studio albums which apparently are harder then their early stuff.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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Progshrike
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 22:02 |
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Who cares what they're called. A great band that isn't the most complex, I think they fall between later era Rush and "Parallels" era Fates Warning.
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 02:03 |
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Art rock for me. I'm cool with the Prog Metal classification here though. I consider them an excellent "intro band" for folks who are new to the genre of prog metal. Art Rock or Prog Metal, it doesn't matter, I love their music anyways.
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