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Abstrakt ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
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Camel, easily!
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 19965 |
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Yes, a tough choice indeed. A draw seems about fair. Camel suffer a little for me due to the lack of decent vocalist, whereas Renaissance have Annie. But then again, Camel have The Snow Goose.
Oh, I can't decide.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 33119 |
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My problem with Renaissance is that too much was borrowed from composers that I consider greater than they. I really like the music, and very competent musicianship, but I don't think it terribly original or innovative. Anyway, I vote for Camel based on Latimer's amazing vocal octave range. Hehe. No vote from me really. I like both equally. |
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Cheesecakemouse ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 1751 |
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But thats the problem with Camel they borrow from everyone, they have no original ideas or any discernable innovation, Snowgoose to me sounds like a covers album, even parts of it I thought were original at one time turned out to be a blatant copy, I think Camel is a tribute band and not a prog band, they do brilliant covers but nothing original. To me Camel fits in with Triumverant and Staircastle, bands just imitating other bands.
Sorry Camel fans this is just what I feel ![]() Edited by Cheesecakemouse - March 26 2007 at 17:37 |
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Spacemac ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 15 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1626 |
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Camel
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 33119 |
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^ I had intended to mention how derivative Camel sounds. I hadn't realised they'd lifted other people's work (as Renaissance did many times -- and to be fair, they incorporated other's themes very nicely. Of course many Prog bands utilised "classical" compositions -- I use the term "classical" more broadly than as a distinct period). Parts of the Snow Goose did sound very familiar. One of my favourite themes in Prog is from Focus in "Hamburger Concerto" but that wasn't original either.
I think it's fair to say that neither band is that original. And though I question the assertion that Haslam has a five octave range as is stated on the band bio page (or at least I question the way the range is measured), I will concede that she has a stronger voice than Latimer. |
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5532 |
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Hmmmmmmmm, tough question. I like both, each of the band has a unique manner of playing . Renaissance has a stunning female voice and Camel has a smoothness that not many of their countrymans has. I voted for Renaissance. |
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 8869 |
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I can't pick a fave between these 2...love them both, and which one I would choose to listen to depends on my mood.
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gr8dane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 11 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1127 |
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Camel.
But they don't really have anything in common in my ears.
I also love Renaissance,
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ProgBagel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
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Camel, one of the few bands that flourished in the 70's that are still putting out quality albums.
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Camel.
Never got into Renaissance. |
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Teh_Slippermenz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 321 |
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Renaissance. Definitely them for me. I don't know, I find them more appealing than Camel.
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Philip ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 13 2007 Location: Porto, Portugal Status: Offline Points: 413 |
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Camel for me no doubts about it. I like Renaissance but Camel are better and they are one of my favourite bands.
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Yorkie X ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1049 |
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Both great musicaly but with Camel I have problems with the vocals (never liked their vocals much) so I went Renaissance who have no problems in this area
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