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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2007 at 03:27
Älgarnas Trädgård could be moved to RIO/Avant, but i'm not sure.
Some songs are really Spacerock, while some are just swedish folk with a wierd touch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2007 at 03:26
WEEN SHOULD BE MOVED TO ART ROCK!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2007 at 03:19
Phish into Crossover or possibly Jazz Rock/Fusion
 
Ween into Crossover or Eclectic Prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2007 at 01:59
MOVE PROCOL HARUM TO ART ROCK!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2007 at 01:50
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Am I the only one that feels that everyone is just trying to get their favorite artists out of PR by compromising why they were put there in the first place?


This is an extremely unfair thing to say, especially to people who WORK hard on behalf of the site. Though I can understand your point of view, personally I am not going to take kindly to anyone who questions my integrity. It is very clear you don't trust us, in spite of what you said in your following post. I am very sorry about that, but I am not going to allow anyone to question my motives again - even though I can't speak for the others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 19:07
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Am I the only one that feels that everyone is just trying to get their favorite artists out of PR by compromising why they were put there in the first place?
 
More with each one's personal perception of what prog is than any relation with favoritism, especially for those bands in the boundaries.
 
Since this thread was started, not a band left the Prog-Related (or Proto-Prog) sections and if eventually some are officially requested to go to a real genre, then they'll need a 4-1 vote yes in the AZ.
 
 

Well that's good to know. Because I feel that some of these bands are perfectly placed in PR.
I can't say I'm worried though. You guys know what you're doing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:58
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Am I the only one that feels that everyone is just trying to get their favorite artists out of PR by compromising why they were put there in the first place?
 
More with each one's personal perception of what prog is than any relation with favoritism, especially for those bands in the boundaries.
 
Since this thread was started, not a band left the Prog-Related (or Proto-Prog) sections and if eventually some are officially requested to go to a real genre, then they'll need a 4-1 vote yes in the AZ.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:48
Am I the only one that feels that everyone is just trying to get their favorite artists out of PR by compromising why they were put there in the first place?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:35
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

I think we should clear out the issue whether "If a band has one 100% prog album, it goes to the respective prog subgenre" is a rule or is it just a myth, before we start.

What do the Admins say?
 
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If a band released only one album (like many Italian acts) and this album is prog then they shall go to their genres. Maybe one album amid 2 or 3 could give a band their passport for a real genre. Otherwise, think of a band with 15-20 albums where only one is 100% prog, well, in this case, I'm afraid they'll be out of a real prog genre.
 
Anyway, teams are devoted to evaluate all prog stuff and they may decide or even consult other Collabs or the entire community to check/confirm their decision.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:29
I think we should clear out the issue whether "If a band has one 100% prog album, it goes to the respective prog subgenre" is a rule or is it just a myth, before we start.

What do the Admins say?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:24
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Personally (i.e. not as an Admin), I reckon Wishbone Ash are fine in PR. I have (and have reviewed) most of their albums. There is no doubt they should be here, but I believe PR is ideal for them.
 
Well... Proper because is a very boundaries band I think that (also for PA policy) PR is a correct place for Ash.
 
But Jeff Beck for me finds the right arrangement in the HP, because also the JR/ Fusion albums have a great Heavy attitude. But, clear, is only my perception of Jeff music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 18:01
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Personally (i.e. not as an Admin), I reckon Wishbone Ash are fine in PR. I have (and have reviewed) most of their albums. There is no doubt they should be here, but I believe PR is ideal for them.


for what's it's worth.. I think there is general agreeement on that...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 17:10
Personally (i.e. not as an Admin), I reckon Wishbone Ash are fine in PR. I have (and have reviewed) most of their albums. There is no doubt they should be here, but I believe PR is ideal for them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 15:46
I am afraid the Genre Teams would refuse most of those suggestions. Personally, I don't think Fairport Convention are more prog than Iron Maiden, but of course this is just my opinion - and as far as I know there is opposition to their being moved to PF.
 As to Vangelis and Jarre, forget about that - there is no way they'll get into Electronic.

Blue Oyster Cult are one of my favourite bands, but they are OK where they are. I wouldn't hold my breath about moving Jeff Beck either - if he had been considered suitable for JR/F, he would have been added there. As regards Wishbone Ash, please check my earlier post.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 15:33
There's no way to move out  Black Sabbath to heavy prog, simply because they aren't prog. Also Iron Maiden should stay here...

Bijelo Dugme could fit into heavy prog though.  Wishbone Ash too. I'm not sure about Blue Oyster Cult...

Barrett could easlily go to psych...


Jeff Beck to jazz/rock or eclectic, damn!

Kate Bush and Josipa Lisac to crossover...

Fairport Convention and Magna Carta have enough credibility for prog folk...

Vangelis and Jarre  fully deserve electronic.

IMHO, of course.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:51
Originally posted by Ely78 Ely78 wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Lady In Black Lady In Black wrote:

If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad?


don't be mad.... it's a rickin music website... you know.... fun?


 
I speak for me and my mother (also for Mandrakeroot): It's always the same story:  to open the boundaries for certain bands or to put barbed wire and electricity and the police?
 
In my opinion (forged by my convinction with added by Andrea and Sara) 10CC are melodic Crossover.


and we'll take a look at them... let me remind you... this thread is for suggestions.. you don't need to be frustrated... we all have personal lives ..and the time here... we give freely..but it is limited

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



Moving groups out, is not exactly a priority of the genre teams. .since we are bombarded with new suggestions for addtion,  those that come through the Band Submissions Team, threads here,  our fellow collabs directly, or of course our our explorations.  However I am curious and would like to involve the general forum.. .what groups currently in PR do you think should be moved to other sub-genres.. and which ones.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:47
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

THE AMBER LIGHT - from PR to Psych or Crossover, but Raff rejected it recently
I've listened to The Amber Light on MySpace and do not feel they fit Xover.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:47
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Lady In Black Lady In Black wrote:

If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad?


don't be mad.... it's a rickin music website... you know.... fun?


 
I speak for me and my mother (also for Mandrakeroot): It's always the same story:  to open the boundaries for certain bands or to put barbed wire and electricity and the police?
 
In my opinion (forged by my convinction with added by Andrea and Sara) 10CC are melodic Crossover.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:37
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Re Wishbone Ash: I only own Argus (fantastic album BTW), and know a handful of other tracks by them - not enough to judge if they belong in HP. Their output is quite extensive, but they could qualify for being moved if they had another two or three albums more or less in the same vein. Thoughts?



that is the only one by them I have as well... but have heard their inclusion here was based on that album alone... hmmm....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 09:36
Re Wishbone Ash: I only own Argus (fantastic album BTW), and know a handful of other tracks by them - not enough to judge if they belong in HP. Their output is quite extensive, but they could qualify for being moved if they had another two or three albums more or less in the same vein. Thoughts?

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