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    Posted: April 01 2008 at 12:11

While on hiatus from using the PA forums, I watched with disgust at some of the apalling progsnobbery present here.

 
So here's a thread for people who appreciate any of the following genres:
 
punk/hardcore punk
electronic music
pop
new wave
techno
emo (the real stuff, like Rites of Spring and At The Drive-In)
rap
 
And anything else generally seen as the bane of prog's existence.
 
All of these genres are great, by the way.
 
If you don't like them, don't be a troll and just stay out of this thread.
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Ha, I knew they're not really music! Maybe you in the future you should be more careful which forum you post in. ;-)

I don't think that electronic music in general is the bane of prog, just dance music.
 
Noooo, Jim ruined my joke. :(


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I dunno - come to a progressive rock forum & expect us not to be complete & utter snobs... what is the world coming to?

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I just want to have a place where I can discuss good music without being ridiculed for having tastes beyond prog.
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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Moved to General Music Discussions
 
Haha, my return is off to a good start.  I guess with TLC away...
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Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:

While on hiatus from using the PA forums, I watched with disgust at some of the apalling progsnobbery present here.

 
So here's a thread for people who appreciate any of the following genres:
 
punk/hardcore punk
electronic music
pop
new wave
techno
emo (the real stuff, like Rites of Spring and At The Drive-In)
rap
 
And anything else generally seen as the bane of prog's existence.
 
All of these genres are great, by the way.
 
If you don't like them, don't be a troll and just stay out of this thread.
I might like some of the electro and pop music but I can hardly
get used to any of the rest... (except Cypress Hill I guess)

There are quite a few of good pop musicians (or were) like G. Michael,
Michael Jackson etc. but I have almost lost all my interest in this decade
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Quote but I have almost lost all my interest in this decade
 
Grizzly Bear
Animal Collective
Dalek
Kayo Dot
Boris
Meshuggah
John Zorn
Marco Benevento
 
 
And soooooo many others are all great bands from this decade.  Since 2005 or so music has been in an undeniable golden era.
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Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:

 
punk/hardcore punk
electronic music
pop
new wave
techno
emo (the real stuff, like Rites of Spring and At The Drive-In)
rap
 


All of those genres have many great bands! Haven't listened much emo though...
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I can listen to ANYTHING as long as I find it enjoyable.
 
 
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2008 at 13:11
Originally posted by Dalezilla Dalezilla wrote:

Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:

 
punk/hardcore punk
electronic music
pop
new wave
techno
emo (the real stuff, like Rites of Spring and At The Drive-In)
rap
 


All of those genres have many great bands! Haven't listened much emo though...
 
Try the two I mentioned.
 
And the greatest rap CD ever:
 
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Punk gave us The Clash, which was an interesting band. The Sex Pistols had some enjoyable moments as well.
Electronic music: Kraftwerk is pretty good, and Jean-Michel Jarre sometimes
Pop: I like The Beach Boys and Donald Fagen, among others
New wave: I like Gary Numan and Talk Talk
Techno: there's probably some interesting stuff there as well, though I haven't discovered it yet (an open minded answer, eh? Wink
Don't know any emo.
Rap: I liked some stuff from the Native Tongues artists from the late '80's: artists like De La Soul, Jungle Brothers and A Tribe Called Quest, and  I used to like Public Enemy to a certain extent, and the Dream Warriors once had a great album.
 
That's as open-minded as I can get for the moment LOL
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Punk also gave us post-punk and hardcore punk, which are far more interesting than the original bands, IMO.
 
Post-punk: This Heat, Joy Division, Mission of Burma, etc
Hardcore Punk: Husker Du is my favorite, Zen Arcade is a sprawling concept album
 
 
Oh, and to be in this thread, you must must must must must not think that indie is talentless crap.  Because that is just so unbelievably wrong.
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If it sounds good to me, I'll listen to it.  Lots of punk and metal and oddball stuff in my collection.
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Points: 11682 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2008 at 00:30
Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:

Quote but I have almost lost all my interest in this decade
 
Grizzly Bear
Animal Collective
Dalek
Kayo Dot
 
And soooooo many others are all great bands from this decade.  Since 2005 or so music has been in an undeniable golden era.

These groups are win, especially the super amazingtastic Animal Collective. I haven't heard enough of the others.
But I agree, modern music is amazing, you just have to find some of it. 2007 was excellent in particular.
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Points: 2888 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2008 at 05:34
Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:

techno


Just out of interest, what sort of Techno do you like? I'm quite the fan myself.


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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I dunno - come to a progressive rock forum & expect us not to be complete & utter snobs... what is the world coming to?
 
A good old fashioned progressive music fan, who grew up with this music from the mid 60's  would have and still should be open to any musical experience - although he/she doesn't have to like every band but in probabliity find something within each genre which will appeal. Anybody uses the word 'hate' wrt to a musical form is abusing the English language and usually demonstrating a pitiful lack of experienceAngryBig%20smile
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Originally posted by inpraiseoffolly inpraiseoffolly wrote:

I just want to have a place where I can discuss good music without being ridiculed for having tastes beyond prog.


Who are these "progsnobs" doing this? I must hve been lucky, because I haven't run into them here. I'd rather ridicule someone who doesn't have tastes beyond prog. (although I find emo apalling/uninteresting myself)
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Indeed. There are genres listed on the original post that do nothing for me at all (mainly rap- I feel no connection to any of it I've heard whatsoever...and over the years I've been exposed to lots of it!), but I wouldn't consider myself 'closed minded' just because I dislike rap- I just tend to stay away from threads discussing rap, really, as I have no input. My dislike of much current British 'indie' is renowned, though, and I certainly have posted how much I dislike the musically conservative likes of Razorlight, The View and Hard Fi- I just think that guitar pop formula has been done to death.
 
Anyway, I grew up listening to people like Elvis Presley, The Beatles and David Bowie as much as I did progressive rock. More recent discoveries of mine that have excited me are the back catalogues of Van Morrison and Scott Walker, alongside post-punk acts Magazine, Joy Division and Simple Minds' early albums.
 
I am kind of disappointed my thread on the aforementioned Magazine hasn't really attracted any attention thus far, though...One thing I definitely have noticed here is, rather than snobbery as such, the need to tie in things with prog for it to be musically valid. I remember being left open-mouthed at somebody claiming that it wasn't worth discussing Elvis Presley on the board because he had no connection to prog.


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