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mrcozdude ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 25 2007 Location: Devon,UK. Status: Offline Points: 2078 |
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We've created a monster! But I think it's ok Zappa's going nowhere fast from the PA |
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24761 |
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He was ahead of his time, being the very first person west of the pond to produce prog music (sorry, but in my small world nothing is known about Miles Davis, who is added to the archves recently, but his name I think RIO/Avant-Prog fits him well enough. |
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Avantgardehead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
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When it comes to prog, the biggest thing for me is the actual progression inherent in the music as well as lyrical themes. Frank Zappa... well, The Mothers were pretty avant-garde for their time, but avant-garde doesn't fall under the prog umbrella in my world. But I think that had more to do with the freak scene and making weird music for weird music's sake.
His solo stuff? Not really, at least to me. |
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el dingo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 08 2008 Location: Norwich UK Status: Offline Points: 7053 |
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I apologise for any inadvertent part I played in the creation of this thread - I guess I should take the blame along with mrcozdude
![]() Seriously I repeat my original post on the other thread - if FZ ain't progressive I'm a tortilla - and totally agree with the guys who say he deserves a category to himself.
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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XunknownX ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2008 Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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eehhh, yes????
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88melter ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 30 2008 Location: Madison WI Status: Offline Points: 94 |
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FZ puts in everything he can whenever he can. I usually speak and write about him in the present tense.
His music was comedy music, just like Jeff Simmons said. But, the jokes were sometimes verbal sometimes musical. Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar is as close to progressive rock as he got, but, since his guitar playing was so bluesy, I am inclined to call them a blues fusion act.
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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trackstoni ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2008 Location: Lebanon Status: Offline Points: 934 |
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What a Question , and What a Poll ? we don't need this Poll to know if Frank Zappa is considered as Progressive . If the name is Frank Pourcel ( the french artist ) , there's no need to say NO , he's not Progressive , but if the Name Is Frank Zappa , then yu need to be familiar with Apostrophe , Sheikh Yerbouti and Joe's Garage to see the difference between commercial pop music , and Progressive Rock music .
And by the Way , Sorry for beeing rude in my answer , but i felt that it's a must be done way to do /////////////////// |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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Zappa was so prog, he made Lather, a 4 LP album (8 sides)
how many 70s prog bands made 4 LP albums? if that's not prog enough, idk what is... |
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LiquidEternity ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 07 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 900 |
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Maybe we should look at it this way: if Zappa was categorically considered prog back in the 70s, then the standards for creativity, musicianship, and versatility would be high enough that pop-prog acts like Genesis and Yes would never have made it in...
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horsewithteeth11 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
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Except saying he sounds like a Serj Tankian clone simply isn't true. ![]() ![]() |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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No, that would be the singer from Disillusion. |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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Frank Zappa is Serg Tankian
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MovingPictures07 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
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Zappa conspiracy theories ftl |
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topofsm ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
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1. Zappa isn't just prog, he is the ONLY prog.
2. Metal album polls are awesome.
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Alitare ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
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I think Meat Loaf is progressive.
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horsewithteeth11 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
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Absolutely. ![]() |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65772 |
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forget if Zappa is really prog-- is he really dead, that's the question.. AM I RIGHT?!
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Lucent ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 18 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 259 |
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The endless metal album polls annoy me
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mrcozdude ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 25 2007 Location: Devon,UK. Status: Offline Points: 2078 |
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For the people who are saying this thread is dumb etc please read how this thread came about here.Therefore it will make sense why this exists and will avoid Henry being flamed lol
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57489&PN=2 Anyway I've said my point and I'm very happy with the results. |
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