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J-Man
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Topic: Stolte - Morse continuum Posted: January 07 2010 at 15:57 |
jplanet wrote:
<shameless self promotion> The new Shadow Circus CD just became available on iTunes yesterday! </shameless self promotion>
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I got that a little while ago, and it is REALLY good! Jay, if you get some more iTunes money, Whispers and Screams is worth a purchase  -Jeff
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J-Man
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Posted: January 07 2010 at 15:55 |
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Moatilliatta wrote:
^Interesting, I think the middle is the best. Well, I take that back, The two longer tracks in the middle are the better of the couple. Life in Motion and One More Time have absolutely dreadful lyrics which make an already cheesy tune cheesier really. Certainly some points in those songs are solid, but I found myself cringing at some of the embarassing things they say in those songs. |
I'm fairly certain that no lyric on that album is worse than
I been circlin' like in orbit
'Round that cosmic Christmas tree
You think science is a fact, but it's just a childish game
And they never saw the greatness of a game
lolwut
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The chorus in "Love Is The Only Answer" makes me cringe every time as well... It's still a kick-ass album, though. I can certainly look past the lyrical flaws. -Jeff
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Negoba
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Posted: January 07 2010 at 10:17 |
I'm only on my first listen and that Cosmic Christmas Tree caught my ear....ewwwwww.
But overall I'm really impressed with the music. The vocals, meh, they're there. Not bad enough to harm the music but don't hurt it either. At least most of the lyrics are fairly positive.
And the cover is cool.
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 07 2010 at 07:21 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
^Interesting, I think the middle is the best. Well, I take that back, The two longer tracks in the middle are the better of the couple. Life in Motion and One More Time have absolutely dreadful lyrics which make an already cheesy tune cheesier really. Certainly some points in those songs are solid, but I found myself cringing at some of the embarassing things they say in those songs. | I'm fairly certain that no lyric on that album is worse than
I been circlin' like in orbit
'Round that cosmic Christmas tree
You think science is a fact, but it's just a childish game
And they never saw the greatness of a game
lolwut
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Negoba
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Posted: January 07 2010 at 07:15 |
Well I have a long drive through snow this morning so I'll get a good chance to listen. Gentle Giant is always good for me, so I'm glad I got the rest of V.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 21:50 |
^Interesting, I think the middle is the best. Well, I take that back, The two longer tracks in the middle are the better of the couple. Life in Motion and One More Time have absolutely dreadful lyrics which make an already cheesy tune cheesier really. Certainly some points in those songs are solid, but I found myself cringing at some of the embarassing things they say in those songs.
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 21:35 |
Negoba wrote:
Well iTunes is limited and I was taking earlier suggestions so I got "The Sum of No Evil," and finished "V" so I would have a full SB album. With my few dollars left I bought a few more tracks from Bungle's California.
We'll see where I end up. | The Sum of No Evil has two decidedly brilliant songs: "One More Time" and "Life in Motion." The middle of the album is here and there, but there's some fabulous instrumental passages during the journey.
The middle songs of V are more pop and Gentle Giant-oriented, and are quite good.
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Negoba
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 21:26 |
Well iTunes is limited and I was taking earlier suggestions so I got "The Sum of No Evil," and finished "V" so I would have a full SB album. With my few dollars left I bought a few more tracks from Bungle's California.
We'll see where I end up.
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Drew
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 21:14 |
I LOVE Neal and the Flower Kings, but:
? is my least favorite Neal Morse album- favorite is probably "One"
Paradox Hotel and The Sum of no Evil are my two least favorite FK albums
(but they are still great of course)
Flower Kings best IMO: Space Revolver, Adam and Eve, and Unfold the Future
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 21:12 |
Thanks John, i'm on my over there now. 
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 20:54 |
<shameless self promotion> The new Shadow Circus CD just became available on iTunes yesterday! </shameless self promotion>
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 20:51 |
No one's suggested the Stolt/Morse combo platter of Wall Street Voodoo. So I will. It hits a slightly less prog, almost classic rock kind of feel.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 20:45 |
Transatlantic's first two albums are better than everything in the Flower Kings and Spock's Beard discographies as well as the Stolt & Morse solo albums. I would get those two. If you really want more, I'd recommend Neal's Sola Scriptura.
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 18:14 |
Negoba wrote:
There is a new IZZ album too...hmmm. |
That new album is not as good as the last (although as I gave the last one 5 stars it would be very hard to be), but very enjoyable and worth getting, I think.
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Negoba
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 15:08 |
Well I'll see what's available tonight and report back.
Listening to "End of the Day" right now...better than "Crack the Big Sky"
There is a new IZZ album too...hmmm.
Edited by Negoba - January 06 2010 at 15:16
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Padraic
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 14:58 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 14:57 |
Padraic wrote:
Just to give Jay more data, The Light is one of the worst albums I've ever heard in my life.
And I am a huge IZZ fan as well.
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(Hope you get the joke Pat)
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 14:55 |
Of those I would choose Paradox Hotel. Still, I'd pick Space Revolver first if it's available. As for Snow, I enjoy it, but it's not my favorite of the Morse-era SB. In fact, I'd place it below the self-titled post-Morse-era album.
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J-Man
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 14:52 |
^Sounds good!  Forgot to mention Roine Stolt's album titled The Flower King is excellent as well
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