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Roj
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Posted: March 16 2009 at 06:50 |
ELP hit heights that many other bands could only aspire to. They were however responsible for a few duffers later in their career.
Whilst I think DT are more consistent (I like all theirs I have heard), they've not made anything on a par with Brain Salad Surgery. That said, there's been no Love Beach from them either (yet!).
Damn this is tough, but I'll go for ELP. I'll pick the inconsistent genius of ELP over the more consistent music of a slightly lesser quality of DT. This is no offence to DT, as this was a very tough one for me.
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micky
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Posted: March 16 2009 at 06:59 |
Roj M30 wrote:
Damn this is tough, but I'll go for ELP. I'll pick the inconsistent genius of ELP over the more consistent music of a slightly lesser quality of DT.
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well said.... have a weakness for the mad genius types... makes it easier to forgive a few stinkers. If you don't go for the gusto.. push the edges... you don't make definining statements of music.. and you also won't know failure either. Playing it safe is nice with your investments.... not when being an 'artist'.
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prog4evr
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 02:30 |
If we compare the bands person-by-person:
1. Petrucci vs. Lake: Granted, Petrucci can shred like nobody's business, but Lake has warmth in his musical tonality that Petrucci can only dream about. 2. More vs. Emerson (yeah, I know, DT-Awake & earlier only): Emerson without a contest - for creativity and virtuosity. Putting Emerson up against Rudess would be much harder. 3. Portnoy vs. Palmer: Perhaps Palmer cannot do machine-gun double-bass like Portnoy can, but I believe his jazz-inspired colorations around the set (cymbals included) put him even above the mighty Mike.
On this basis alone (which is hardly scientific), the winner is: ELP...
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 10:42 |
ELP , no doubt
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angelmk
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 11:30 |
Dream Theater for sure.
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mr.cub
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 22:04 |
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
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elpless
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 01:16 |
for me its Elp, even though their albums are somewhat patchy, at their best they were tremendously ambitious, hoping to creat some sort of fusion between classical, rock, improvisation, jazz, opera, perhaps overly ambitious of course in the end but they made quite an impression but at the very worst they were brilliant musicians. i would say their finest album was Trilogy, a very fine achievement, but the ultimate Elp album was love or hate it, Brain Salad Surgery.
my best memory of Elp is seeing them circa 1975 at Wembly arena, two buddies and i managed to miss our last train home and we had a cold night on st pancras station!
Cheers
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sleeping on the floor of Euston station after the Elp concert was not pleasant
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 05:39 |
ELP, too much soloing that doesn't ring with my ears:\ I vote for DT
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angelmk
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 07:44 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
ELP, too much soloing that doesn't ring with my ears:\ I vote for DT
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seconded
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sydbarrett2010
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Posted: August 17 2010 at 15:40 |
they're both good in different ways dt is a progressive metal band and elp is a symphonic prog band you cant tell which one is better
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kole
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Posted: August 17 2010 at 15:46 |
ELP vs DT? That was never a competition. ELP.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 17 2010 at 23:07 |
I'm afraid I must go with DT. I love both, but there are so many more songs I love from DT. However, none of them has done a whole album which I would totally like, but DT has come closer.
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jampa17
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 00:24 |
prog4evr wrote:
If we compare the bands person-by-person:
1. Petrucci vs. Lake: Granted, Petrucci can shred like nobody's business, but Lake has warmth in his musical tonality that Petrucci can only dream about. 2. More vs. Emerson (yeah, I know, DT-Awake & earlier only): Emerson without a contest - for creativity and virtuosity. Putting Emerson up against Rudess would be much harder. 3. Portnoy vs. Palmer: Perhaps Palmer cannot do machine-gun double-bass like Portnoy can, but I believe his jazz-inspired colorations around the set (cymbals included) put him even above the mighty Mike.
On this basis alone (which is hardly scientific), the winner is: ELP...
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That's the worse analysis I have seen the whole site...
DT anytime... if you will always justify that they just can't play as fast as DT... sorry... but DT player really can play with ELP did, is just that you will always like the original... while ELP can't be able to play a song of DT... period.
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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richardh
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 01:40 |
ELP v anyone and ELP win in my book.
I do have a lot of Dream Theater albums.
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance is way out in front my favourite and one of the best doubles ever released.Blows ELP Works out of the water.
Awake is also a fine album of songs and shows DT have more than one string to their bow.
After that I find it hard to like anything else. Images and Words has some good songs but I don't like the way its produced. Recent albums like Systematic Chaos just lack any real inspiration to my ears. But as someone else said DT are a more consistent band and to their credit they tour a lot. I've seen them live a couple of times and they are great in that environment.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 01:46 |
I'll say DT
ELP is cool but DT is just more my thang
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Peter
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 02:01 |
Hold the metal -- cheese, please.
Edited by Peter - August 18 2010 at 02:08
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 06:44 |
Dream Theater 'cause if you say it with a Cockney accent it sounds cooler than ELP.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 07:00 |
I am voting for DT because I am a big fan and have all their albums. I only recently got into ELP, and only have bought Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery so far. But I like them, though.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Tursake
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 07:03 |
Both are awesome but I still prefer ELP a bit more
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Kojak
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Posted: August 18 2010 at 09:28 |
ELP for me
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