Do PA proggers have the right prog balance?

Too often I'm finding the best composed albums here to be rated low and the least well composed albums rated high. Most of us like the same bands of the era between the late 60s and early 80s but do prog listeners continually choose the most experimental/least composed stuff over the most well composed? I've always believed the best music came from the best composers and the more great compositions you can put in an album the better. Experimenting is ok, but when it's long passages of non melodic music, I believe this is filler and proof the band lacks strong composition to fill an album. Experimenting and Improvising should be saved for concerts. Albums should be packed with genius . Do proggers listen to band catalogues extensively? Do they give all albums enough spins or do they buy so many albums from different bands than they don't get time to enjoy albums over many listens? I'm finding several albums by bands that rate low here to be close to the best albums. Full of quality compositions. Quality compositions will always come out on top. I'm past that overdone prog and fusion which tries to get over complex. Just sounds a bit of a mess. Or you get the amatuer composers who rely on technicality and experimenting. That doesn't go far with me either. It's time we all matured and gave the right albums the high ratings in here

Edited by dr prog - March 24 2012 at 03:13

Got some examples?

Edited by Pekka - March 24 2012 at 03:18

He sure isn't very progressive for somebody that calls himself dr prog.

Good thing glorifiedpopmusicarchives.com is going to be Max's next site.


Edited by Triceratopsoil - March 24 2012 at 03:19

dr prog wrote: Too often I'm finding the best composed albums here to be rated low and the least well composed albums rated high. Most of us like the same bands of the era between the late 60s and early 80s but do prog listeners continually choose the most experimental/least composed stuff over the most well composed? I've always believed the best music came from the best composers and the more great compositions you can put in an album the better. Experimenting is ok, but when it's long passages of non melodic music, I believe this is filler and proof the band lacks strong composition to fill an album. Experimenting and Improvising should be saved for concerts. Albums should be packed with genius . Do proggers listen to band catalogues extensively? Do they give all albums enough spins or do they buy so many albums from different bands than they don't get time to enjoy albums over many listens? I'm finding several albums by bands that rate low here to be close to the best albums. Full of quality compositions. Quality compositions will always come out on top. I'm past that overdone prog and fusion which tries to get over complex. Just sounds a bit of a mess. Or you get the amatuer composers who rely on technicality and experimenting. That doesn't go far with me either. It's time we all matured and gave the right albums the high ratings in here

Edited by irrelevant - March 24 2012 at 04:46

How do you rate the non-melodic part of Pink Floyd's Echoes? Is it a filler?

Edited by octopus-4 - March 24 2012 at 04:56

octopus-4 wrote: How do you rate the non-melodic part of Pink Floyd's Echoes? Is it a filler?

In general, reviewers base their ratings on listening experiences (positive/negative), the replay value of an album and it's place within the perceived historical context of prog (importance). The deeper rooted elements of composition and intelligence of the instrumental parts can perhaps better be judged by people who are experienced musicians themselves, but that's not what reviewing is about. Reviewing isn't just for an elite of knowledgeable persons, but it is for the general public; in this way it reflects the opinion of the general public. Next to the opinion of the general public, there's your own opinion. The latter should be more influential in choosing the music you listen to, the first can help you find new music.

And to be perfectly honest, I think the people who really embrace the eclectic/Progressive ideal are in a minority on PA. A lot of people like music in the vein of Genesis, Yes and the like and completely satisfied with the genre-name progressive rock (which doesn't necessarily imply the music is innovative or experimental).    

Given the imaturity I've seen in many of dr.progs posts, I find this entire thread laughable.

It all comes down to personal tastes, and no matter how much I hate certain artists who are highly rated by a majority here, or highly rate certain artisit who are either lowly rated by othes or completely ignored, it doesnt make me right and them wrong.

Slartibartfast wrote: I find the premise of the thread laughable but nothing ventured... The original post is full of filler.

Slartibartfast wrote: The original post is full of filler.