Young People Relieved They Don't Have to Own Music

Textbook wrote: PC has done more good than bad. As someone heavily connected to the black community, I can tell you that's a fact. Maybe things were fine in Wonderbread town but think about other places.   American labor being respected is similarly code for labour being weak in other countries. America thinks being equal to other countries is a weakness while at the same time going on about how they want everyone to be equal.   As for the rich paying taxes... OK I'll give you that one ;)   There is still good music outside of prog. Anyone who says there isn't hasn't tried looking.   TV was always kind of garbage. In fact if anything there's a strong case for it being better today than in the 70s.   Why is it necessary to own a physical representation of a sound? A lot of you prog goes on about how it's about the music and the sound is all that matters etc, image means nothing, and then you come in this thread and insist music be tied to a little paper booklet with some pictures on it.

Just a couple of comments.  I didn't grow up in Wonderbread town (we grew up on Butternut bread).  Seriously, I grew up in an integrated, working class neighborhood.  And my arguments against PC are not necessarily to be taken as an argument against equal treatment and equal protection under the law. 

Labor is still weak in other countries, at least in the countries where US jobs are going, e.g. Mexico, China and India.  It is just that American businesses have gotten stronger and have more ability now to exploit the weak labor in those other countries that they did not have back in the day.

I've tried looking, but post-80's, with the advent of the grunge movement, music has gone downhill and has got consistently worse with the passage of time (solely my opinion, not a statement of fact).

It just is.    I have never once said that the music and sound is all that matters.  The booklet, pictures and yes, just the ability to touch and hold something in your hands and have it on display in my entertainment room is worth something to me.  But then, I am a collector of music, not just a listener of music.

Ok.  Make that a few comments. 

PC has done more good than bad. As someone heavily connected to the black community, I can tell you that's a fact. Maybe things were fine in Wonderbread town but think about other places.

"the way they ought to be" presumably means it was a time where your life path still seemed very fluid and full of potential and perhaps before you had less of a grasp on the complexities of the world. While it's completely understandable for you to be fond of or miss that time of excitement, it's completely insane (though also quite normal) to view this as evidence of a certain group of years being superior to other periods of history.

Doctor: Yes because if you read the literature of the 70s, you'll note the constant theme of how satisfied and content everyone was. I believe there's even a book about it called A Decade Without Problems by Alex Haley.

Edited by Textbook - June 20 2012 at 00:06

Textbook wrote: I believe that while the death of physical music releases is a done deal as far as the mass market is concerned, limited edition physical releases for collectors and hardcore fans will remain viable for quite some time, perhaps even forever.   But I do say perhaps. A lot of us alive now feel the need for physical releases purely because of plastic memory. Future generations will possibly grow up without any concept at all of a sound based product needing to be physically packaged, which could put the nail in the coffin altogether.

More and more I wish I still lived in the past.  The 70's would be a nice time again.  Still good things on television, still good music (well, I suppose there is still good prog, but that's it nowadays), no PC (either PC as a matter of fact), and hey as a bonus, there were still jobs here in the US and the rich even paid taxes. 

I'd still rather have physical copies complete with the album art, liner notes, etc.  Nothing will ever change my mind in that regard.  I'm the same way with e-readers.  Screw 'em, I want an actual book.

Textbook wrote: AND DID YOU SPEND THAT MONEY ON MUSIC? ALL OF IT? BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN"T YOU'RE WORSE THAN HITLER. DON'T TELL ME ABOUT NEEDING TO FEED YOUR CHILDREN. HITLER NEEDED TO FEED HIS CHILDREN TOO. ARE YOU LIKENING YOURSELF TO HITLER? I DON'T CARE IF HE DIDN"T HAVE ANY CHILDREN, THE POINT STILL STANDS.   CHECKMATE.   A KNOCKOUT BLOW   WHY DO I OWN BEER, I'M TEETOTAL

(You used a quotation mark for an apostrophe.  Protip- Use the "caps lock" button instead of holding shift).

Textbook wrote: Oh yeah. Epig, stay out of my beer.

I'm enjoying my own brews with the money I made after spending a year teaching young people how to think. 

Also, if you can't read and don't know what we're saying here, send for the government pamphlet "How to Read" (GPO Y9451E).   If you're blind and also can't read, there are government services available in your area to provide you with blind dogs who can read braille with their noses.

Epig: Fundamentalism necessitates a lack of thought.