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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 13:07
If you like Zappa as a guitarist, you should get SUAPYG too. If you're anything like me, you'll never get through more than two tracks in one go, but you'll appreciate it nonetheless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 12:36
Well I've become a Zappa completist so I will get everything. I have all FZ's albums that I didn't list. Maybe I'll get TYS, CPIII, and Monkies because I really like Jazz From Hell.

I can't get 200 Motels right now, which pisses me off.

Mothermania sounds interesting to me. I feel like some people either love Thing-Fish, or thoroughly hate it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 12:30
Hmm well in addition to Yellow Shark I'd also get Civilization Phase III.

Civ is basically a second attempt at Lumpy Gravy, very different though and at times chillingly atmospheric.

Even though I own Mothermania, 200 Motels, Shut Up And Play Yer' Guitar, Thing-Fish, Francesco Zappa and Mystery Disc, I don't really like them enough to recommend them. Mothermania is fun but it's just a best of of the first 3 Mothers albums. Mystery Disc is a pile of curiosities jumbled together and Francesco Zappa is plain crap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 12:24
I was thinking about Yellow Shark too. Any others? I've usually been getting at least three at a time. Anyone know how Feeding the Monkies is?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 12:16
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:


What Zappa album(s) should I get next?Albums in bold means I have never heard them before. Albums in green means I heard a little and it's been years since I heard them, so I don't really remember much. Purple means I know it mostly well, but don't own a copy.(It's more or less impossible to get 200 Motels right now, and I'm
waiting til it gets released on Universal. I'm also kind of waiting to
get Civilization Phaze III last for obvious reasons.)
Mothermania200 MotelsShut Up And Play Yer' GuitarThing-FishFrancesco ZappaGuitarPlayground PsychoticsThe Yellow SharkCivilization Phaze IIIMystery DiscEverything Is Healing NicelyFZ:OZTrance-FusionBuffaloJoe's MenageHammersmith OdeonFeeding The Monkies At Ma MaisonRoad Tapes Vol. 1

I own several of those, and of them I'd go for Yellow Shark.
Orchestral and fantastic. A great version of G-Spot Tornado is to be found.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 11:58
Road Tapes or Yellow Shark
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 11:57
What Zappa album(s) should I get next?

Albums in bold means I have never heard them before. Albums in green means I heard a little and it's been years since I heard them, so I don't really remember much. Purple means I know it mostly well, but don't own a copy.

(It's more or less impossible to get 200 Motels right now, and I'm waiting til it gets released on Universal. I'm also kind of waiting to get Civilization Phaze III last for obvious reasons.)

Mothermania
200 Motels
Shut Up And Play Yer' Guitar
Thing-Fish
Francesco Zappa
Guitar
Playground Psychotics

The Yellow Shark
Civilization Phaze III

Mystery Disc
Everything Is Healing Nicely

FZ:OZ
Trance-Fusion
Buffalo
Joe's Menage
Hammersmith Odeon

Feeding The Monkies At Ma Maison
Road Tapes Vol. 1



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 11:45
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I must own over 65 titles by Zappa and appreciate all periods of his music. I never heard "Buffalo" which is supposedly a great concert. It is expensive, out of print..etc. I didn't like the Fillmore East and Flo & Eddie annoyed me too death during that performance...but I enjoyed their efforts on 200 Motels. I have yet to see cd releases of the strange artists Zappa signed to Bizzare Records like The GTO'S and An Evening with Wild Man Fischer. I know there were others and I can't recall their names. I am still in the dark and wonder if Gale Zappa will release another batch of cd's which are currently over-priced on Amazon. Buffalo, Imaginary Diseases, Trance-Fusion and others seem to be a bit expensive. I wonder if she will release the 3 volumes of Kill Ugly Radio.  
I have the GTO's CD, and it's at best a curiosity.  A friend of mine has the Wild Man Fischer album, and I find it unlistenable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 11:41
I think the reason there is so many versions of The Torture Never Stops on Frank's albums is, well, because The Torture Never Stops.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 11:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 01:15
If you did a Zappa catalog run-through chronologically, when would you listen to The Lost Episode, the Stage series, and One Shot Deal?

The Lost Episodes - no idea......
You Can't Do That On Stage series - besides vol. 2 and 5, I would listen to them after "Jazz From Hell" and "Feeding The Monkies..." sort of a summary of all the live bands up to that point before the 88 band.
One Shot Deal - somewhere in the 70s, but not sure where exactly... Some time around the Lather era maybe?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:16
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

  I have yet to see cd releases of the strange artists Zappa signed to Bizzare Records like The GTO'S and An Evening with Wild Man Fischer.  
The GTOs album actually was on CD for a very short time, on the Enigma "Retro" label in the late 80s or early 90s.  I had a copy.  I thought it was a pretty bad album so I got rid of it, but then it quickly went out of print and has never returned. So I wish I'd kept it now.Unhappy  I never get rid of anything anymore!   The Wild Man Fischer album has never had an official CD release, though I have a bootleg CD of it which almost looks legit, not that I was fooled by it.  I just figured it might be my only chance to hear it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2013 at 21:01
I think THIS is Frank Zappa

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 20:37
I must own over 65 titles by Zappa and appreciate all periods of his music. I never heard "Buffalo" which is supposedly a great concert. It is expensive, out of print..etc. I didn't like the Fillmore East and Flo & Eddie annoyed me too death during that performance...but I enjoyed their efforts on 200 Motels. I have yet to see cd releases of the strange artists Zappa signed to Bizzare Records like The GTO'S and An Evening with Wild Man Fischer. I know there were others and I can't recall their names. I am still in the dark and wonder if Gale Zappa will release another batch of cd's which are currently over-priced on Amazon. Buffalo, Imaginary Diseases, Trance-Fusion and others seem to be a bit expensive. I wonder if she will release the 3 volumes of Kill Ugly Radio.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 14:56
A Google group https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.fan.frank-zappa/ySVWftRaPiQ says:
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> It wouldn't surprise me if there was a real life inspiration for the song

Howard Kaylan has stated that there wasn't."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 14:52
I never really appreciated Just Another Band From L.A., but since recently I have been exploring all Zappa eras, including the Flo & Eddie era. While I still think JABFLA is a lesser Zappa album, it's fun, and the 3 new songs on there are great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 14:12
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What is the story behind the song "Magdalena"?
I think it was based on a news story he read.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 14:10
What is the story behind the song "Magdalena"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 13:00
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Also, the ratings for Sleep Dirt all reflect the version with vocals, which is now an out of print version.

Mine doesn't. In fact, one of the first things I did when the remaster came out was to change my rating from 4 to 5 stars. But yeah, it's quite unfortunate that the album is now stuck with all those reviews and ratings that punish it for the vocals and overdubs it no longer has. Not that we can do anything about it.

Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

And is not a collection of various live performances also a compilation?

Well, by that standards very many Zappa albums are compilations. I view a compilation as something with primarily released stuff on it.

Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Zappa fans are quite detail oriented, I'm learning LOL

Oh you have no idea how obsessive we can be. Wink

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

FZ's page needs clean up or something. It's all those Beat The Boots that make it look unorganized. Those albums should all be moved to a different section.

Were they even released individually? Because if not, we might consider deleting them all in favor of the two boxsets, although that would mean losing valuable reviews.

Since we're on the topic of fixing stuff, I just spotted a minor thing: Mystery Disc is listed as "The Mystery Disc", but there's no "the" in the album title.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2013 at 12:03
Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:


I was reminded of a time several years ago on a prog related Yahoo group, where someone asked where to start with Frank Zappa.  All the replies consisted of lists of albums........no single album recommendations.  The person replied saying that they really just wanted to try out one album........and the Zappa freaks told them that that just wasn't possible with Zappa and that if they were going to judge him by a single album they should just not bother.  The person asking then said forget it, they would just forget about trying Zappa.  LOL  Somehow, I think Frank would have approved.

Quite true LOL.  I spent some time on zappa.com's message board, and it almost became a running joke that whenever a newbie would ask for recommendations, the stock answer was "just get them all."  Because it eventually boiled down to that anyway, if you're going to ask a rabid fan for recommendations.


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