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Posted: March 31 2013 at 07:20
Whatever the lyrical shortcomings I have learned to rather like Love Beach. Terribly disappointed at first but with hindsight I rather like it. Not classic ELp by any means but...
^^ @ SnowDog - It attracts a lot of flak from people who clearly have never heard it and continue to confuse the cover with the contents
BTW you are spot on re the intolerable pressures and adverse circumstances the band endured (courtesy of Ahmet Ertegun of Atlantic) when recording Love Beach in the Bahamas.
You've sold over 50 millions units worldwide for your fabulously wealthy employer, who then asks you to make a pop album to appease 4 spiky haired music jornalists in London ? get f.u.c.k.e.d Ahmet...(should have been the response)
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:34
I don't think I've ever been able to listen to one of those albums in one shot. Not totally for the trash can, there are worse things around, but if I want some ELP I likely start with Trilogy
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Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:37
Love Beach by an ocean. I think that album really gets such a bad rap because of the cheesy cover. No, it's not BSS or Tarkus or my personal favorite Trilogy, but it isn't that bad. In the Hot Seat on the other hand should have been called Down the Toilet.
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
Before I started this poll, I wanted to 'rehabilitate' Love Beach's popularity, as it's the butt of so many jokes around here (I rarely see In The Hot Seat being used in that way.)
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:28
If a little more thought from the art department went into presenting the bloody thing, it may have saved it a lot of flack. The cover shot is atrocious. The back photo was quite mellow . One of the worst covers of any record I own - even the 'Hawklords' album cover had a bit of intrigue to it.......not that it was much better..........
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 07:34
Tom Ozric wrote:
If a little more thought from the art department went into presenting the bloody thing, it may have saved it a lot of flack. The cover shot is atrocious. The back photo was quite mellow . One of the worst covers of any record I own - even the 'Hawklords' album cover had a bit of intrigue to it.......not that it was much better..........
WEll the whole band hate the cover and Emerson lobbied Atlantic to change the album title.
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 13:30
Snow Dog wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
If a little more thought from the art department went into presenting the bloody thing, it may have saved it a lot of flack. The cover shot is atrocious. The back photo was quite mellow . One of the worst covers of any record I own - even the 'Hawklords' album cover had a bit of intrigue to it.......not that it was much better..........
WEll the whole band hate the cover and Emerson lobbied Atlantic to change the album title.
Not much anyone could do, given the impatience and rushing surrounding the whole everything of it....
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Posted: April 01 2013 at 14:50
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Haven't heard `Hot Seat' for quite some time, but `Love Beach' isn't quite the dog it's made out to be. Palmer's drumming in particular is terrific!
I think the sexually suggestive lyrics on `Taste Of My Love' (ugh, even that title!) are the worst thing about it!
Taste Of My Love is a real stinker but the rest isn't that bad and would have stood up as an ok 'pop prog' album with a decent production like Genesis had with Duke.
Although Palmer is very good its actually Lake that impresses me most which accounts for why he got slaughtered by ELP fans for supposedly dragging the band in a commercial direction ( to suit his own agenda goes the faulty argument).
Palmer later stated that it was only worth using as a coaster. Emerson is perhaps more the issue as his keyboard work is totally uninteresting even on the Memoirs suite. The March is especially half hearted. Its best explained by his own admission that he was very deflated after the collapse of the Works orchestral tour and felt the band had run its course ( it had). However that 'nasty' Mr Ahmet Ertegun made them carry on as they didn't have wills of their own (apparently)
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 00:06
brainstormer wrote:
I think it's best to remember that Peter Sinfield wrote the lyrics to Love Beach and he was headed
in a serious pop direction in his career after the 70's.
Yes - I noticed that he has some credits on a Bucks Fizz album I once saw (no, I DO NOT own it.....) - I think Mel Collins played sax on it too, but then he played with most everybody............
And there is a similar sound to Love Beach as to Duke. I guess we all have more time for the first 5 ELP albums, but LB is still enjoyable.
The next poll should be Love Beach or Tormato.............
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Posted: April 02 2013 at 01:55
King Crimson776 wrote:
^ That, plus Hand of Truth is better than most things from Love Beach.
If it was for the original material, i would had gone with Love Beach for CANARIO, wjhich is brillisannt, if it would had been released in Trilogy or BSS, would be considered a top 10 by many people who doesn't know it exists.
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