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Joined: June 24 2012
Location: tokyo
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Points: 40
Posted: May 14 2013 at 22:20
@josh: I love Brand X, but what is "music for music"?
@tapfret: thanks, that mats\morgan is nice. . . I love the high speed, the drummer and the wonderful sort of Rain Man-ish keyboard player. I just wish there was more heads and less solos.
As for the prog bar, sadly it went out of business. There is another prog bar though, mostly specializing in Hammond organ music.
I can't believe nobody yet has mentioned French band Syrinx, or maybe I can, but I am still outraged!!!!! Their second album Qualia is beyond complex, but somehow it works. Hmmmm I guess you can say the same thing bout the debut too, it's just that I imagine the op's taste lean towards the metallic side of things. Still you won't find a lot of heavy metal guitars, the heaviness comes from Chapman stick, drums and iron like acoustic guitars, that sound like barbed wire vibrating.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Joined: June 24 2012
Location: tokyo
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Posted: May 15 2013 at 21:59
Thanks again everyone! That Alan Holdsworth "SAHARA OF SNOW" song is pretty much exactly what i wanted! I 'll also check out the syrinx.
I was listening to the first album of CHICK COREA'S ELEKTRIC BAND, which has a very unusual sound. Like there's 3 or 4 layers of drums and it's impossible for me to tell what is drum machine, what is MIDI triggers, and what is real drums which are somehow processed to sound fake. It's very 80s, but also deeply weird. I'd love to mute all the melodies and just explore the percussion on that album . . . .but i want to do that to EVERY album.
Joined: July 20 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
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Points: 6796
Posted: May 15 2013 at 23:09
tokyoganglion wrote:
Thanks again everyone! That Alan Holdsworth "SAHARA OF SNOW" song is pretty much exactly what i wanted! I 'll also check out the syrinx.
I was listening to the first album of CHICK COREA'S ELEKTRIC BAND, which has a very unusual sound. Like there's 3 or 4 layers of drums and it's impossible for me to tell what is drum machine, what is MIDI triggers, and what is real drums which are somehow processed to sound fake. It's very 80s, but also deeply weird. I'd love to mute all the melodies and just explore the percussion on that album . . . .but i want to do that to EVERY album.
I suggest going backwards in time & checking out the early to mid-1970's Return To Forever albums! My favorite of the bunch is "Where Have I Known You Before?" Check this out, these young geniuses were at the top of their games!
Joined: July 20 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
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Posted: May 16 2013 at 14:25
"Show-offy" is a great description! Certain artists were in love with themselves and their image, and it showed in their recordings and concerts.
I always considered Al Dimeola to be one of the most guilty, his "Elegant Gypsy" days were especially egregious! Damn good music and some of the best guitar work I ever saw or heard, but, uh, he was a bit "in love" with himself.
Joined: October 12 2007
Location: United States
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Points: 2764
Posted: May 16 2013 at 15:05
IMO, Allan Holdsworth is not really that show-offy. It's almost like calling John Coltrane show-offy (not that bad, but still). He just has tons of musical ideas.
But yes, his music has a very inhuman feel, with almost no traditional emotion. I would recommend getting heavily into him. Also check the band U.K., and Soft Machine's "Bundles".
You're going to want to check out The Aristocrats. Just listened to the debut today, absolutely incredible. You got Guthrie Govan, Marco Minneman and Bryan Beller. And I mean, these guys rips, like virtuosos. Some of the best Instrumental/ Fusion I've heard in a while. Fusion done well.
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