Admit it - Sometimes, you just can't go back...

Jim Garten wrote: Atavachron wrote: I have recently had a fear that if I succumb to recent urges and buy the first two Dio albums, I'll be highly disappointed.  Oh man - how many times have I been that close to doing exactly that, eh?? I played those albums to death when they first came out, but even with the great memories, I'm still convinced that's what they should stay - memories.

But Jim how can you resist the poet that is Ronnie James Dio -

We're a ship without a storm
The cold without the warm
Light inside the darkness that it needs
We're a laugh without a tear
The hope without the fear
We are coming home

 - I'm getting teary

Edited by Atavachron - March 31 2014 at 04:41

Atavachron wrote: I have recently had a fear that if I succumb to recent urges and buy the first two Dio albums, I'll be highly disappointed.  I know it would be true for almost any Ozzy record after Ultimate Sin.

Actually i can handle Dio more than Ozzy-a couple of years ago i found these import CDs on Ebay The Dio Anthology & The Dio Anthogy II-gave me all the Dio i'll ever need-the track Lock Up The Wolves is cool to me still.

It's people feeling jaded and it's perfectly normal as they age, but you can also shine the light on the occasional fine experience you feel from listening to something you grew up with...and only..depending upon your personal mindset. There are days I would hate The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, but if I were in the right mood...it would be the perfect balance. If your father played with Benny Goodman during the Swing band era ..you might have to approach him with questions of interest about icon innovative Jazz musicians on a specific day where he is in the right mood because he is 95 years old and doesn't wish to re-live his past in conversation. Socially this nightmare of psychological twists and turns cements itself into the lives of people as they age. So in that sense it is self explanatory as to why it often occurs with people's musical tastes.

For me it come in waves, suddently im tired of all the new albums, and i listen to the music i loved back then, but as the first post mention, as fun and great it sometimes is, just as often its a disapointment and i dont know how i could love it back then. But then maby 1/2 a year later i try the same album again, and now it clicks.

I sure if this song was not full of sweet memories, it would not mean much to me, but it reminds me of so much fun and stuff from my youth.

 

Atavachron wrote: Jim Garten wrote: Atavachron wrote: I have recently had a fear that if I succumb to recent urges and buy the first two Dio albums, I'll be highly disappointed.  Oh man - how many times have I been that close to doing exactly that, eh?? I played those albums to death when they first came out, but even with the great memories, I'm still convinced that's what they should stay - memories. But Jim how can you resist the poet that is Ronnie James Dio - We're a ship without a storm The cold without the warm Light inside the darkness that it needs We're a laugh without a tear The hope without the fear We are coming home  - I'm getting teary

Getting bored to Dio's first two albums is just not a possibility David. Now that note about Diary of a Madman and prog (just listen to that title track...)

Atavachron wrote: Jim Garten wrote: Atavachron wrote: I have recently had a fear that if I succumb to recent urges and buy the first two Dio albums, I'll be highly disappointed.  Oh man - how many times have I been that close to doing exactly that, eh?? I played those albums to death when they first came out, but even with the great memories, I'm still convinced that's what they should stay - memories. But Jim how can you resist the poet that is Ronnie James Dio - We're a ship without a storm The cold without the warm Light inside the darkness that it needs We're a laugh without a tear The hope without the fear We are coming home  - I'm getting teary

Dio is the worst lyricist in rock history. Great voice, utter travesty with the rhyming. Everything has got to bloody rhyme all the time, even a mime sucking lime.

Edited by The Dark Elf - April 02 2014 at 21:40

Finnforest wrote: Does anyone listen to Dio for the lyrics?  The more I think about this topic's premise, the more I disagree.  I have revisited a ton of "old" albums over the last year and have had SO much fun.  I have been blasting these albums on my commute and on the treadmill, the albums almost making these chores bearable.  Yes there have been a few disappointments...but had I followed the gist of this thread, I would have missed out on some great fun.  Taking chances is half the fun of being a music fan.

Edited by The Dark Elf - April 02 2014 at 22:19

Struggle with some Renaissance, especially the early 80's stuff like Camera Camera. That just seems too cheesy to make a 40 minute listen.

Mean Street kicks ass, all VH through 1984 is excellent, I even like the first three Sammy albums

Concerning the lyrics of the late Ronnie James Dio, I really like the Rainbow albums he was on, can enjoy his tenure in Black Sabbath even if it doesn't have a patch on the first six with Ozzy Osbourne but his solo output I find hit-and-miss. It doesn't help that around Last in Line or so he fell back on in his lyrics using the same metaphors over and over.

Really, I think RJD's a good example of how overtly cryptic or muddled lyrics can be saved by a passionate enough vocal performance (though sometimes not even then)... I'm not quite sure on their own what they mean, but the way he sings them at least adds some direction that way. Very few lyrics in rock music can stand up to scrutiny outside the wider context of the song they're part of anyway, and I don't think they're written with that in mind more than a few rare cases. (Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Patti Smith etc)

Somewhat back on topic: I can't help but think it's a mixed blessing I'm becoming so elitist with regards to the arts. On one hand, if there are fewer entertainment options I consider valid it means choosing which to spend my time on is a lot easier. On the other, I can't help but feel that if things continue like this it'll become near-on impossible for me to actually enjoy or at least be genuinely impressed by something in the future. (especially considering if old favourites become cases of diminishing returns)

Edited by Toaster Mantis - April 05 2014 at 06:17