bucka001 wrote: From Peter Hammill, on his Twitter account:   "A documentary about the career of Genesis/PG without a single mention of Stratton Smith or Charisma, eh? Not very classy...or accurate."

From Peter Hammill, on his Twitter account:

There were too many musicians in the band," or something to that effect, was smug, arrogant, and downright odd

I'd see that in context with the rest of the documentary - Collins was being humorous & acting the fool I think to defuse what was an obviously tense reunion.

...and yes, I'd forgotten - Stuermer playing Firth Of Fifth? Hello?? Yes, he's a fantastic guitarist & did a fine job, but this really put the boot in with Hackett... "I know, we've ignored his entire solo career, how can we really insult him - ah yes - have his replacement play his most famous Genesis solo"

I haven't seen said documentary on the BBC, but I can only imagine how Hackett got slighted. I'm surprised he was even part of the documentaries for the 2006 CD remasters. As for Banks being a control freak, that's a given with the majority of the writing he did for Wind and Wuthering, Hackett's opus. Then again, Genesis was his and Gabriel's and Rutherford's baby from the start, so he had plenty to be possessive about. Hackett didn't help matters when he ripped And Then There Were Three a new one in a few interviews when it was released. He gave the lads ample resolve in carrying on without him. The one quote that really bugged me though was when Collins was asked why Hackett was no longer in the group. His response of "There were too many musicians in the band," or something to that effect, was smug, arrogant, and downright odd. He was barely a musician in his solo efforts, and that reality, I think, eventually caught up with him, guiding him into retirement.

i didn't see it yet but I read that Banks says Duke is his favorite album by the band--- He's been saying for years his personal favorite is W&W---and that it has some of his best and Hackett's best songs---guess once the decision was made by him to ignore Hackett for this doc---he had to make his fav album one by the 3 man line up. 

Edited by twosteves - October 06 2014 at 09:07

Anyone who has read about Genesis won't learn anything new from this.  Elsewhere Mayhew is credited with putting the band on a more professional footing.  I was also surprised to see Sturmer playing 'Firth of Fifth' for the camera - Hackett's masterpiece!  I love how Collins recruited Chester Thompson on the basis of 'Roxy and Elsewhere' - how did he distinguish him from Ralph Humphrey?
I can't remember the name of the journalist, but at least he commented that Genesis had become clinical by the 80s, so it wasn't all celebration of their chart-topping period.
Reunion?  Not now, can't see it...

Ant came over as a really nice guy. I hope he benefits from the programme and sells more albums as a result.

Jim Garten wrote: Mike Rutherford & (especially) Tony Banks certainly came off worse & it could be interesting to see the un-cut version (if such a thing exists) to see if they are that bitter & cold toward Gabriel/Hackett, or if this is how the documentary was edited... No, I think my main complaint about the programme is it showed me actually how good the later stuff I purport to dislike actually is... Damn them.

Not a very well presented documentary, certainly, but I think still well worth a watch, if only for the footage of Ant with the band, the body language when they got all 5 of them together, and the fact that for me personally, I came away with a great deal of respect for Phil Collins. Nice too, to see contributions from Tony Stratton-Smith & Richard MacPhail (unsung heroes of the Genesis story)

Mike Rutherford & (especially) Tony Banks certainly came off worse & it could be interesting to see the un-cut version (if such a thing exists) to see if they are that bitter & cold toward Gabriel/Hackett, or if this is how the documentary was edited... People here have mentioned how ATOTT & WAW were virtually ignored - I wonder if this is a period none of them wanted to revisit or, if when they were interviewed about the period it all kicked off (in a polite English way, of course ).

No, I think my main complaint about the programme is it showed me actually how good the later stuff I purport to dislike actually is... Damn them.

I expected The Documentary of Documentaries. A look at the small, insider details on the creation of the albums. I haven't watched it yet, but I wonder now: Is it worth it...?