Rolling Stone discovers Genesis....FINALLY!

Horizons wrote: Out of all shameful artists, you choose those? Gaga is not half bad.

Gag me with a spoon.

Svetonio wrote: richardh wrote: Svetonio wrote: ^ As someone has already pointed out, Rollingstone was a mag whose editorial policy was directed to  Rock, not to Prog. Actually, RollingStone was one of the hystorical "fortress" of Rock purists. As you know, Rock purists were / are not like Prog. On the contrary, they hated our beloved genre no less than e.g. the fans of Punk. So I consider this RollingStone's article as a "rehabilitation" of Prog. Get it? (...) Prog suddenly made a comeback (especially in Scandinavia) (...) ...and also especially in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, France, Spain, Portugal, USA, Mexico, Argentina, Peru and so on.

That only works if they throw Lady Gaga, Fifty Cent and Beyonce out with the trash.

richardh wrote: Svetonio wrote: ^ As someone has already pointed out, Rollingstone was a mag whose editorial policy was directed to  Rock, not to Prog. Actually, RollingStone was one of the hystorical "fortress" of Rock purists. As you know, Rock purists were / are not like Prog. On the contrary, they hated our beloved genre no less than e.g. the fans of Punk. So I consider this RollingStone's article as a "rehabilitation" of Prog. Get it? Nope but then that is hardly some in depth article about prog is it? The late seventies/early eighties  was an absolute pain for me (and I imagine for many prog fans) but what I got used to was the fact that we could not rely on any rock magazines for decent articles about prog. In England there were a few decent journalists like Chris Welch but then he was probably considered some kind of dinosaur as well. The 90's though was very interesting as we saw a comeback of proper bands who wrote and produced their own songs. The 'plastic eighies' was no more. Prog suddenly made a comeback (especially in Scandinavia) and all this happened independently of magazines like RS. Anyway if RS ever writes a decent article about this and the history of prog please let me know.

Hopefully, RS will know what geographical area is referred to as Scandinavia. They probably think that Anekendoten is a country.


Edited by SteveG - October 17 2014 at 09:18

Svetonio wrote: ^ As someone has already pointed out, Rollingstone was a mag whose editorial policy was directed to  Rock, not to Prog. Actually, RollingStone was one of the hystorical "fortress" of Rock purists. As you know, Rock purists were / are not like Prog. On the contrary, they hated our beloved genre no less than e.g. the fans of Punk. So I consider this RollingStone's article as a "rehabilitation" of Prog. Get it?

Guldbamsen wrote: I prefer Hustler magazine myself.

^Because they encourage 'follow the leader' behavior and determine what is culturally hip instead of the other way around.

^The mill wheel just fell over.

[QUOTE=Chris S]. I think Gaga's output in the last five years is a lot better than Dylan's.





Your opinion is subjective Chris.

I quoted facts. The mill wheel has stopped turning.


Edited by SteveG - October 16 2014 at 15:53

Svetonio wrote: richardh wrote: Svetonio wrote: richardh wrote: Svetonio wrote: richardh wrote: Svetonio wrote: richardh wrote: Svetonio wrote: Anoraknok wrote: Rolling stone just promotes the film. Don't be that optimistic.  Howsoever, Rollingstone has made a step forward for a "rehabilitation" of progressive rock. although this is not required. Its only in the general populace view that all these stupid mags subscribe to that this is required. Ignore it and just be happy that you listen to great music. Of course it's required. Not for us who are already the fans of progressive rock, but for wider audience, for popularization of the genre, it is required. It doesn't need to be popularized. There is so much prog around its coming out my ears. If only I had an infinitite amount of time and money. Prog is an elite passtime. The populace don't care for it. Songs over 5 minutes with no hummable tunes. Prog was only going to be popular at a particular time and that time has long gone. What hasn't gone are the bands and the passionate die hards like us. I strongly disagree. Our beloved genre is not a sweet little thing in an old scrapbook of a grumpy old man's childhood; it's actually a living genre that is now global, with the ocean of fantastic bands and it deserves to be popularized, and it goes well with that "rehabilitation" by Rolingstone. Prog can be "in" again. It just needs a strong propaganda in the mags such Rollingstone.   Propaganda' is a terrible word (as is 'rehabilitation' for that matter) to use in this context although I realise that English is not your first language. (...) LOL, okay, let's imagine that I replaced the word 'propaganda' with the word 'advertising' (although it is the same thing), but I stand by everything I said in my previous post. that makes more sense in that context I still hate the word 'rehabilitation' though You can hate the word if it will make you happy, but the word "rehabilitation" very accurately describes what happened.

Chris S wrote: Forgive but not forget eh? they are as much part of history as is Steve Hackett's Cured. Inescapable

The Black Plague was a part of history too, Chris. Does that mean we should accept it and give it a pass. Or the Great Inquistion?

Compatable tragedies, No.

But lying and obfuscation of facts does not deserve to be given a pass. RS made their money with record company 'endorsements' and 'incentives' from other parties in order to portray then current  music trends in ways that were far from true, and the fact that they pander to lady Ga Ga while reviewing a Dylan album in order to appear fair and balanced in the same issue should say it all. I started  reading RS when it first came out with the famous Lennon interview and their trashing of Led Zeppelin's first album was the first thing that set off warning bells in my mind: Do these people even have a clue of the current rock music trends? No. Not anymore than they do now.

Forgive? Maybe. But that would take an extraordinary act of contrition that RS could never pull off.


Edited by SteveG - October 16 2014 at 17:11