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    Posted: December 14 2004 at 22:01
What are the most controversial and polarizing albums ever produced in prog?

Here are, imho, the top three

1) Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes

2) Brain Salad Surgery by ELP

3) Caress of Steel by Rush
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 22:07
1) Tales from Topographic Oceans - Yes
2) The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis
3) Snow - Spock's Beard

^Although I love those albums, I'm just saying what I think I got from the general concensus.

Do you ever notice that the most controversial albums usually turn out to be concept albums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 22:10
Yep... Tales, The Lamb, and BBS, two of which are concept albums, all came out around the same time (73-74) and, in my opinion, represent the farthest reaching boundary in progressive rock. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 22:20
farthust reaching boundrey?! thats some spaced out thinking! i can argue that there are alot better "out there" albums then those 3! far better examples i can name
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 22:25
okay okay, of the more "mainstream" prog groups then. Of course, groups like VDGG did more eclectic stuff... you're right, that was dumb thing to say. Thank you for the correction 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 22:30

theres bands way more out there then even vg but ill not get into that...

i see what you mean though!topographic was way out there for a band like yes to make. the good thing about it though is that it introduced people who usually just listened to easy listenible prog dwelve into deeper, more shall i say, cosmic prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2004 at 23:10

666 by Aprodites Child without any doubt: The band started to work this album around the end 1969 or the beggining of 1970 and was ready to be released in 1970, but no record label accepted the risk to release it because:

a) The Title: They dared to place the number of the beast as a title, all labels were afraidthat religious groups would boycott the without even listening the album and finding it was a bout the Holy Bible.

b) The Concept: The Book of Revelations is the most controversial in the Bible, talks about the end of the world and contains a lot of symbolism that Aphrodite's Child interpreted in their own style.

c) Sahlep: The band published and included in the cover that 666 was conceived under the influence of Sahlep. Many groups thought this was the name of a demon when in fact is a Turkish beverage.

d) Infinity (Symbol): This track sung by the wonderfull actress Irene Papas is a 5 minutes orgasm with explicit shouts and moanings.

As a result 666 was banned until 1972 Vertigo took the risk, but by that point the band had split almost one year before.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 02:52
Probably two of the most controversial prog albums I can think of come
from the same highly controversial band: Yes. Of course, Tales from
Topographic Oceans was controversial, but I think even more
controversial were:

-- Drama
-- Tormato

Also extremely controversial was:

-- Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe

Remember back when it came out ... it was Yes, but it wasn't really Yes at
all. And something tells me we haven't seen the last of controversial
moves from Yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 03:01

Bongo Fury

Earthbound

and I agree with the Tales pick...I'm still surprised how many people dislike it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 04:49

I also cannot understand about people who doesen't want to listen TALES some times more and dig into this great record at last! :-)

1) Yes TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS (1973)

2) Jethro Tull A PASSION PLAY (1973)

3) Peter Hammill LOOPS AND REELS (1983)

 

Personally I love all the mentioned albums...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 05:03
Originally posted by Emperor Emperor wrote:

I also cannot understand about people who doesen't want to listen TALES some times more and dig into this great record at last! :-)

1Personally I love all the mentioned albums...

Sorry mate, it's my least loved prog album. I think it's a rubbish record

However, I'm glad someone is getting some pleasure out of it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 05:41
For me, Dark Side Of The Moon is the most controversial. EVERYBODY thinks it's one of the best prog records ever, except for me. I think it's good pop, nothing more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 05:53
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by Emperor Emperor wrote:

I also cannot understand about people who doesen't want to listen TALES some times more and dig into this great record at last! :-)

1Personally I love all the mentioned albums...

Sorry mate, it's my least loved prog album. I think it's a rubbish record

However, I'm glad someone is getting some pleasure out of it.

 

Hi, Sigod :-)

I remember how it took at least doezen times to listen before I only began to get into it. But the album is really amazing. Really, try again! And my suggest: don't start to listen with the opening track (The Revealing Science Of God) - better begin with the 2nd one - The Remembering - it's more listen friendly! ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 06:06

Tales from Topographic Oceans - The foremost example of OTT progressive rock, shortly followed by The Lamb and possibly Animals.

TFTT was so OTT that is is used as the paradigm for everything that was supposed to be WRONG with prog. But, surely is a paradigm of what was RIGHT about progressive rock! I just wish that a few more (perhaps even completely instrumental studio double/treble albums had been recorded - the  more OTT the better - but not weird/dischord - True Soaring/melodic sublime prog, alas it was never to be !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 06:48
Originally posted by Eddy Eddy wrote:

theres bands way more out there then even vg but ill not get into that...

Why dont you tell us?

Long live progression.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 08:09
Balletto di Bronzo : Ys and Locanda della Fatte : Forse le luciole.. get quiet opposite reactions. I love Forse... and never got into Ys.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 08:26

Why?

YS is not so complex or hard-to-get album... It really Progs! :-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 08:27
Oh, yes, FORSE is also great! The opening instrumental track is simply wonderful. I also have LIVE (1977) by Locand Delle Fate, haven't the only last album...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 08:31
[QUOTE=Emperor]

Why?

YS is not so complex or hard-to-get album... It really Progs! :-)

I didn't say it was hard. (nor hard to get) I just don't. I listened to it maybe 5 times, no spark coming over!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2004 at 09:17

topographic

lamb lies

jethro tull - warchild

radiohead - kid A

GYBE! - lift up your skinny....

tool - lateralus

pink floyd - final cut

king crimson - red

 

 

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